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Active Worlds on linux[edit]

I have done some research and it seems that the information about Active Worlds running on Wine for Linux is false. Active Worlds does not normally run on Wine; it only runs under very specific circumstances, ones that I cannot seem to replictate. --71.234.231.129 (talk) 23:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It worked under Linux for me on VMware Workstation 6.5 in HW accelerated mode (DX8+T&L). Performance was..adebaquate. 92.126.192.159 (talk) 09:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

POV Citizen Block[edit]

Someone put this on the page today... reverted the page and leaving this on the talk page.

"As can be found in the not very publicized TOS they guarantee nothing. No access, and service can be terminated for NO reason at all if they choose to do so, and often do. Here in full is their "terms of service" which usually is emailed to an individual upon being banned from access:

"BY CLICKING ON THE "NEXT" BUTTON, YOU ARE CONSENTING TO BE BOUND BY AND ARE BECOMING A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL OF THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, CLICK THE "CANCEL" BUTTON AND THE INSTALLATION PROCESS WILL NOT CONTINUE. IF THESE TERMS ARE CONSIDERED AN OFFER, ACCEPTANCE IS EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO THESE TERMS.

GRANT. Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Activeworlds Inc. ("AWLD") hereby grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable, nonsublicensable, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use one copy of the client software product you are about to install in object code form ("Software") for the purpose of accessing the Active Worlds server and using the Active Worlds software resident thereon ("AW Software").

You may: copy the Software for archival purposes, provided any copy must contain all of the original Software's proprietary notices; you may use the AW Software subject to the terms and conditions of this license.

You may not, directly or indirectly: modify, translate, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble (except to the extent applicable laws specifically prohibit such restriction), create derivative works based on, or otherwise attempt to discover the source code or underlying ideas or algorithms of the Software or AW Software; or copy (except for archival purposes as set forth above), rent, lease, distribute, transfer or otherwise transfer rights to the Software or AW Software; use the Software or AW Software for timesharing or service bureau purposes; or remove any proprietary notices or labels on the Software or AW Software.

SOFTWARE. This license does not grant you any right to any enhancement or update. Furthermore, this license does not grant you continued access to AW Software.

SUPPORT. This Agreement does not entitle you to any maintenance, upgrades, patches, enhancements, fixes, new versions or other support ("Support Programs") for the Software or AW Software; provided, however, that if you download or otherwise obtain in any manner any Support Programs they shall become part of the Software and the terms of this Agreement shall apply.

TITLE. As between the parties, title, ownership rights, and intellectual property rights in and to the Software and AW Software, and any copies or portions thereof, shall remain in AWLD and its suppliers or licensors. The Software and AW Software are protected by the copyright laws of the United States and international copyright treaties. Title, ownership rights, and intellectual property rights in and to any software, data, information, text, pictures, images, avatars, characters, sounds, personalities, or other content ("Content") accessed through the Software or otherwise with AW Software is the property of the applicable owner and may be protected by applicable copyright or other law. This License gives you no rights, title, or interest to Content (including without limitation Content that you post or create on the Active Worlds server) except the limited license to use the AW Software as described above.

COPYRIGHT. Activeworlds Browser Copyright © 1995-2006 Activeworlds Inc. Portions of this software are based in part on the work of the Independent JPEG Group. Portions copyright 1984-1996 FairCom Corporation. All rights reserved. Portions of this software are Copyright 1998-2001 Criterion Software Ltd. Portions utilize Microsoft Windows Media Technologies. Copyright (c) 1999-2002 Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. THE SOFTWARE, AW SOFTWARE, AND ANY SERVICES THAT YOU RECEIVE FROM AWLD, ARE PROVIDED "AS IS." AWLD HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.

LIMITATION OF LIABILITY. You assume the entire risk as to the quality and performance of the Software or AW Software. AWLD assumes no liability for the cost of any service or repair if the Software or AW Software is defective. Further, you assume the responsibility of, and any costs or liability associated with, making a connection (by any means) to the Active Worlds server, and you understand that the Software and AW Software will not operate without such a connection.

AWLD exercises no screening, editorial, or other control over Content available to you through your use of the Software and AW Software, and Content may include material that could be deemed distasteful, misleading, inaccurate, offensive, pornographic or otherwise objectionable. Furthermore, use of the Software or AW Software does not guarantee any privacy or confidentiality of any Content you post or make available through the Software and AWLD assumes no responsibility or liability for the preservation of such Content and may modify or remove it at AWLD's sole discretion. You hereby release AWLD from any and all liability for all claims related to Content as well as claims related to the security or level of privacy provided. If you are a minor, you MUST obtain permission from your parent(s) or guardian(s) to install this software, and they will take full responsibility for all obligations under this Agreement. You are liable for all activities conducted through the Account, and parents or guardians are liable for the activities of their child.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES AND UNDER NO LEGAL THEORY, TORT, CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE, SHALL AWLD OR ITS LICENSORS, SUPPLIERS OR RESELLERS BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, DAMAGES FOR LOST PROFITS, LOSS OF GOODWILL, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION, OR ANY AND ALL OTHER COMMERCIAL DAMAGES OR LOSSES. IN NO EVENT WILL AWLD BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES IN EXCESS OF AWLD LIST PRICE FOR A LICENSE TO THE SOFTWARE, EVEN IF AWLD SHALL HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

TERMINATION. AWLD may, at its sole discretion, terminate this Agreement, the license granted herein, and your right to use or access the Software, AW Software, or the Active Worlds server at any time. On termination, you must destroy all copies of the Software.

ARBITRATION. Any claim alleging a violation of any duty incident to this Agreement, or your use of the Software or the AW Software, or arising out of any transaction occurring in Active Worlds, irrespective of the legal theory asserted, is subject to binding arbitration. This means that both sides give up all rights to a jury or court trial. The arbitration will take place, at your choice, either on-line before the Active Worlds Tribunal, or before a panel of arbitrators at the American Arbitration Association offices in Boston, Massachusetts. In the latter instance, both sides shall pay half of the fees and expenses associated with the arbitration proceeding itself, but each side shall be responsible for all costs associated with traveling to the site of the arbitration, preparing for the arbitration, and hiring counsel, if desired. In both cases, both sides shall select an arbitrator from a randomly generated list of available arbitrators, and those two arbitrators shall select a third. No punitive or consequent damages (including without limitation statutory "multiplied," e.g. treble, damages) shall be awarded and the arbitrators shall be made aware of this limitation.

EXPORT CONTROLS. None of the Software, AW Software or underlying information or technology may be downloaded or otherwise exported or re-exported (i) into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, North Korea, Iran, Syria or any other country to which the U.S. has embargoed goods; or (ii) into any country in which the U.S. has embargoed goods, or to anyone on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Commerce Department's Table of Deny Orders. By downloading or using the Software, you are agreeing to the foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not located in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any such country or on any such list.

MISCELLANEOUS. This Agreement represents the complete license agreement and supersedes all prior agreements and representations and may only be amended by a writing executed by the parties. If any provision of this Agreement is held to be unenforceable for any reason, such provision shall be reformed only to the extent necessary to make it enforceable. This Agreement shall be governed by and construed under Massachusetts law.

U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions set forth in subparagraphs (a) through (d) of the Commercial Computer-Restricted Rights clause at FAR 52.227-19 when applicable, or in subparagraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause in DFARS 252.227-7013, and in similar clauses in the NASA FAR Supplement.

Created and produced by Activeworlds Inc.""

cant these people destroying this page be banned or something? --AlexTheMartian 21:19, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

If the same user keeps vandalizing the page, one of the admins might eventually block the IP. [[User:Shred|Shred -§-]]

The first 27 March revision was me - forgot to log in. DOH! - Tinalles

[27 March 22:03 hours, Edit by LtBrenton, cit# 355399: This is not technically true, other tourists *can* overlap objects built by tourists, however a citizen cannot modify or overlap tourist objects without signing off their citizen account.

27 March 23:15 hours, edit by Tinalles. Moved preceeding information to talk, and altered the article to reflect, even if it is a bit nit-picky. And as long as we're comparing cit numbers, mine's 290135.

Another activeworlder here, me! My citizen number is 299274. Guess who is your old friend here? :P --Legion 06:27, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, and one here! 315465 :P --Ningyou 18:53, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
... and a former AW programmer, Syzygy :-( --Dennette 01:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A citizen is always granted access to a public world. If a user gets banned from AW, that person is no longer a citizen (unless until unbanned), so therefore that "grant" of access no longer applies to them, meaning that line on the page is correct and no reason to change it. --AlexTheMartian | Talk 07:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, AlexTheMartian ... there's a name I remember =) Heh, small Internet. (cit#:299613) --63.166.226.83 20:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to link to the TOS rather than a straight copy/pste that clutters up the talk page? 69.241.93.245 (talk) 03:36, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

How is the spacing in the name? Is it Active Worlds or ActiveWorlds, is it AlphaWorld or Alpha World?

AFAIK it is the company Activeworlds Inc. and the product Active Worlds. This is what they type themselves at activeworlds.com anyway. Løde 10:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Active Worlds" and "AlphaWorld", though the company (which has gone through several name changes over the years, has gotten "Active Worlds" confused with "ActiveWorlds" and "Activeworlds"--but then they've gotten a LOT of things confused, which is why AW's stagnated for as long as it has... Eep² 10:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

4.1 SDK Documentation[edit]

When I follow the link for SDK documentation at the Active Worlds site (http://www.activeworlds.com/sdk/}, I get pointed to the download site for the 3.6 (build 41). I've misplaced the link to where I got the current 4.1 SDK, but ran across an Active Worlds Wiki, which is also MIA <sigh!>

Can anyone provide me with a link to the Wiki, which looks like it will be the future home of the most current SDK documentation? Thnx. --Dennette 21:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh! ... Never mind! :-) --Dennette 21:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC] well activeworlds is Greater than dumb there!!!!!!!

Community Section[edit]

Just going to bring all the ideas together here for a write-up about the Community of Active Worlds. This is what's been suggested so far:

  • Towns and Cities
  • Newsgroups
  • CY Awards
  • AWReunion
  • AWUniversity

I'll be helping out with the Wiki-formatting if anybody else doesn't get to it first and also contributing to some of the Community section. --Gnu32 05:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Instead of just AWUniversity, how about we list all of the resourceful worlds, like AWSchool and AWNewbie in that category? --Hyper Anthony 5:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Updating[edit]

We really gotta update this page, there is information thats totally wrong, and information thats just way outdated. I already fixed one error I noticed, someone listed AWTeen as not being owned by AWI, I changed that.

P.S. lol @ most of the comments being from AW users that I know.--Azslande 23:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And the 3.6 screenshot should be updated if you ask me, which your'e not. --Simsimius 19:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No one really knows active worlds to update it? -->_RJ_1o1_< 02:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most people here are citizens of Active Worlds, so we all know a lot. It just needs updating this article. --Simsimius 12:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would hardly say that most of the Wikipedia editors are AW cits (although that probably does apply to the ones who have made contributions to this article and discussion page); more likely, most have never even heard of it. OTOH, most of us who are cits spend our time working on other projects. (I'm spending about half my time on WP:AFD reviews.) So, if you want a new screenshot, upload one and change the link ... that's how the Wiki works! If a submission violates WP:NPOV or WP:VSCA, then one of us will probably notice and revert it. :-) --Dennette 12:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think Simsimius was meaning just this article, not all of Wikipedia. --AlexTheMartian | Talk 00:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I cant do that kind of editing,I'm new to wikipedia and already updated this article about AW 4.1 and that was about it, and I dont know how to upload pics because again, I dont know all those skills yet on wikipedia. -->_RJ_1o1_< 23:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem updating this article, I am an active AW user and an active Wikipedia user, I been a Wikipedia user since 2004, and an AW user since 2001. Heck, I even been watching and updating this article since 2004, but it was SW Comit that started this article 2 months before I started contributing, sadly I don't have that honor, lol. I also started the "Tourists & Citizens" section. --AlexTheMartian | Talk 00:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even the history section is incorrect in some parts, while I was finding some infomation and compared it to google. -->_RJ_1o1_< 18:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, the History section mostly used [1] as a reference. That is initially, i dont know about currently. --AlexTheMartian | Talk 00:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

September 8th update[edit]

Updated numerous areas with new content, removed obvious bias, corrected grammar. Changed other various wordings, and added links. --RhaneC

Thanks for the update man, really needed it. -->_RJ_1o1_< 00:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way... Nice looking computer theme, looks like something from space -->_RJ_1o1_< 22:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed User Comments section[edit]

I have removed the section "User Comments", as it is a perfect example of what Wikipedia is not. I am not the final expert (merely being bold) on such matters, so of course this is open to discussion. Below is the text that I cut:

== User Comments ==
*'''Mr. Potato Wedge''' - One of the best 3D virtual reality platforms I have ever come in contact with!
I and many others are proud to be citizens! (Co Owner Of Bobland, Bot Programmer)

Dfrauzel 22:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that seems about right. Thanks for cutting it. :) 74.128.97.187 04:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I quite agree, and I was the person who added it.. 4 years ago? I was young and not entirely sure of the purpose of Wikipedia at the time... Thank you for removing it.

99.65.33.38 (talk) 02:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Wikia external link[edit]

I removed the Wikia external link, with Point 9 of this guideline as my cause of action. That wiki has had zero edits for the past 30 days. -- JossBuckle Swami 22:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • You can blame it on slow progress of Active Worlds version 4.1 on part of its developer, Activeworlds Inc. Not much to add to release notes page there. :p


Removed SL Link external link[edit]

This has nothing to do with Activeworlds User:Starheart 11 January 2007

Dickins 08:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC) Please Note: As both systems where based on the Book "Snow Crash it is relevant for the reader to examine the interpretation of programmers of both systems as they do refer to virtual communities . Remember Wiki is a neutral system, therefore to delete non activeworld links is reducing the readers ability to research interpretations of the relevant book.[reply]

User:Starheart I removed it under the links to universes, SL is not an AW universe, but can be an external link as it is another 3D virtual system, so I left it in that section.

removed the reference blaxxun since there is no reference in the Wiki for it

added external link for PeaceCity3D

To what extend are external links added? Only the ones that are well known? Or try to have a complete list of all universes?

Does the current subscription price have to be included? I don't think its relevent, pricing is not usually quoted in other Wikipedia articles.

Advertising? I think not.[edit]

ActiveWorlds, To my knowledge, has NO advertising, including pop ups, banners, TV, radio, or any other type of advertising.

So why is it marked as an advertisement?

CompuHacker 03:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no no no, it says "This article or section is written like an advertisement." so it is not marked for the program having advertising, it is the other way around, to some people on Wikipedia, this activeworlds article is looking like just one big advertisement for activeworlds, instead it needs to look more like a normal encyclopedia article. And I am not the one who marked it as advertisement, but I do think we probably can do without all the pricing info. --AlexTheMartian | Talk 06:36, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MMOG[edit]

Is AW a game? No. Please remove, I won't for fear of it being disputed. It's not a game.

I removed "Mode(s) Massive Multiplayer Online Game" as well as "Ratings G+", becuase 1. It is not a game, and 2. I believe G+ can be misleading. Activeworlds varries from G to X rating, but it all depends on which world you go to. So I do not know what is the best way of listing the rating. --AlexTheMartian | Talk 06:44, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Outer Worlds merger[edit]

Outer Worlds was created recently but full of mostly gibberish nonsense. I have reduced it to a bare stub but it could easily be merged into the Active Worlds article. Comments? ∞ΣɛÞ² (τ|c) 12:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redirected to Active Worlds, but not merged. Really no reason to :\ --GSK 17:19, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary line[edit]

"as well as Mac OS X, if the computer is running Windows with Boot Camp" - Can someone delete this line? Otherwise we have to put it on every windows-only software article to be consistent. 220.237.133.147 10:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

One of the events I remember clearly, which is not mentioned in the history as far as I can see, was when Alphaworld was closed down for public editing. As I recall they had been trying to make a profit by selling private worlds, but when this didn't succeed (people prefered the world where all the others were, and that was open), they demoted all non-registered users to just one ugly avatar and no building. I wonder if it was around the same time they tore down most of the buildings around ground zero, replacing them with their own, and thus offend many of the early adopters.

Am I the only one to remember this? For me, AW was something that was the rage around 1997, and then promptly vanished into obscurity, but the history (and this page in general) seems to be from the perspective of the company only.

Active Worlds and Gor[edit]

It has been proven, and myself saw it, that Active Worlds is a but taken over by Gor lifestylers. Some game masters are Gorean and beginners tend to be 'welcomed' to Gor. I would like to remind them this should be but a bedroom game and that if their fisaco could end it would be nice. Gor sucks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.115.46.6 (talk) 15:28, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Goreans have more or less sunk into the darkness within AW, as they aren't mentioned much anymore and tend to stay in their own areas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GSK (talkcontribs) 17:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Being rather noob to AW, I DON'T see myself redirecte to Gor worlds (in fact there I couldn't even find any notice to them except in Worlds list). On teleport to Gor worlds they asks you to either say date of birth or age(or both). And almost all of them are X rated. This is more than enough I think (and anyway, in SecondLife there is much more Gorean(and general BDSM) content) anyway. Vikarti anatra (talk) 09:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Citizen Section[edit]

The last two bullet points under the citizen section seem to be contradicting each other or describing the same service in different ways and is confusing. Is a Personalized Avatar the same as a Customizable Avatar? And does it charge once, or with each change?

-Citizens can opt to have a Personalized Avatar, one that follows them from world to world. Personalized Avatars (also called PAV) cost $19.99 for the first time, as well as each change thereafter. Unlike Customizable Avatars, PAVs are required to be modeled by a third party before a citizen can use them.

-Citizens are allowed a Customizable Avatar (or CAV), and are able to make changes to it for no charge. This feature was added in version 4.2.

69.241.93.245 (talk) 03:34, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly, PAV and CAV are two different systems. Maybe it can use some clarification, I'll check that. --Løde (talk) 14:58, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be stubbed?[edit]

Any reason this article in its current form shouldn't be reduced to a stub. There are no reliable sources here that I can see. Most of the sources are primary, links to self-published websites, or non-reliable websites (some of which are off line). AniMate 05:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is a lot of history here. Just because Active Worlds doesn't have the current amount of publicity that competitors like Second Life has doesn't mean it's not notable. Active Worlds was the first large scale 3D virtual world. I think that's notable enough. Instead of removing most of the content and reducing it to a stub, why not contribute and find reliable sources? One of the obvious goals of Wikipedia is to reduce articles that are stubs, not to maximize the number of them. Why Active Worlds should be reduced to a stub, and not any other virtual world article, I can't seem to understand.-- GSK (talkevidence) 05:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't that writing the article backwards. We don't add information and hope that we can find something that supports it. I suggested stubbing it, so we could get rid of a lot of unsourced, non-notable trivia and create an actual article. AniMate 05:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I'm not sure why we need to remove most the content. Instead, why not find reliable sources now instead of deleting most of the content and then finding reliable sources? -- GSK (talkevidence) 05:27, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Let's be honest here. Most of this stuff hasn't ever been written about in reliable third party sources. People involved in online communities often think every aspect of them is encyclopedic. They aren't. Unless someone outside of Active Worlds has written about all of these "fascinating" details, we can and should remove them. I'm searching, but I'm not finding anything. I urge you to look for actual reliable sources, because the reference section on this article is a disgrace. I'm not going to start deleting things right now, but I'll likely start very soon. You've been editing this article for over three years. The sourcing problems can't be some huge surprise. AniMate 05:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tag removal[edit]

Please don't remove the tags on this article. Currently the only sourced section in this article is the "History" section. No reliable sources have been produced that show that anything in the "Main features" or "Community" section are notable or even accurate. AniMate 22:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prototype of Second Life[edit]

Heya! Second Life originated as a ripoff of this one!!! AW is semi-maintained, with only basic "for today's Windows" upkeep (or maybe not even that). Second Life, originating as a ripoff, became x-platform and o-src, got more capacities... Hey, it even got a better mouse mode! (AW's mouse mode resembles Doom, SL's - a more modern shooter). :( 178.34.108.40 (talk) 16:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • ActiveWorlds and Second Life use two very different cores. Neither is based off of one another. -- GSK (tc) 10:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some more history from an original developer[edit]

I'm not advocating using a blog as a reference or even external link. However, I came across a blog by one of the original developers describing his experience on this project as part of an "autoblography". The AlphaWorlds / ActiveWorlds period of his life is described in these two posts:

I thought it offers an interesting perspective on the history in this article. ~Amatulić (talk) 13:53, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite confused as to why there's a separate article for this offshoot of ActiveWorlds. It could easily be merged into this article. -- GSK (tc) 10:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New article on Active Worlds[edit]

http://kotaku.com/youtubers-journey-into-abandoned-mmo-is-creepypasta-mat-1767500088 Gamaliel (talk) 17:56, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect changed[edit]

Outer Worlds used to redirect to this page. I changed it to The Outer Worlds because this Active Worlds article doesn't use the phrase "Outer Worlds" and neither do any of the cited sources.

It does look like there is a virtual chatroom named OuterWorlds which is an offshoot of the virtual chatroom Active Worlds. However, I haven't found any reliable independent sources that talk about this. WanderingWanda (talk) 18:21, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I used to play Outer Worlds in 1999-2002.
It was almost identical to Active Worlds - same browser/chat layout, many identical building assets, but fewer of them and many were more simple models with less positioning controls. Same system of Tourists, Citizens and world Licenses.
I was only aged 9-12 so I didn't understand why there were two (AW and OW), but the adults on OW seemed to like the smaller community there. Doblica (talk) 12:28, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]