Talk:Graduate student

This page and PhD have a lot of overlap in content (although not authorship), and should perhaps be reworked concurrently? See Talk:Doctor of Philosophy. --zandperl 02:10, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

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    Undergraduate degrees in the UK are generally at a higher level than 
    undergraduate degrees in the US, perhaps equivalent to the Master's degree.

This sentence sounds highly suspect to me, and I'm almost positive it's absolutely false. If it were true, then undergrad students from the UK would proceed directly to the US and Canada to get their doctorates. Exploding Boy 01:38, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)

• Having studied in the US and worked in the UK, I would say that it isn't true, but neither is its opposite. It very much depends on the specifics of the degree: A 4-year degree in the US from a good university in many, if not most cases is better than the average 3-year degree in the UK, but UK courses are much more focused than in the US (as are most other European undergraduate programs). -- Martin 160.83.32.14 08:40, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • My impression is that undergrad degrees in the UK are more highly focused than (liberal arts) undergrad degrees in the US. Perhaps more focused programs in the US such as engineering or business are more akin to UK degrees? --zandperl 20:42, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

References

Anybody have references, either virtual or physical, for the various things stated here? A lot of it reads like personal experiences, and it does read quite well, so if we referenced it further I'd like to nominate the page for featured article status. --zandperl 20:42, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

POV?

I don't want to ruffle any feathers here, but I wonder if this page is sticking closely enough tot he NPOV rule. There is a great deal of bitterness in this article and at times it sounds more like disaffected grad students voicing their complaints, rather than an encyclopedia article.

A little less vitriol in the "Life after graduate school" would be nice. What would we lose by merging all of this with Ph.D.? Eldereft 06:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

In response to your second point, graduate students are not only PhD students. Exploding Boy 06:36, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe that most statements made in the article that seem NPOV are poorly (or not at all) cited, written in a somewhat inflammatory way, and are absolutely correct. I have done a great deal of research on this subject and come to the same conclusions. There are hundreds of articles on the web on the subject. Articles discussing the overproduction of PhD's in physics are consistent and can be found as far as 20 years back. There are numerous books written about it - consider "The PhD trap" by Cude. I have many of these links at home, and plan on reading a few more books. I will update this page, but it will be quite a long time before I do. PitOfBabel 16:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

POV Pic?

How is that POV? It's my own picture. It's just self-deprecating humor, and there's no policy that explicitly forbids it. Billy Blythe 03:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Please set up a separate wikipedia page with your picture and call it something like 'Condition of a Graduate Student'. Since you asked: You are actually violating most of the Five pillars You are presumed to be biased towards yourself and so violate NPOV. In addition, putting your own picture up would count as Original Research. Insertion of a bad joke is vandalism.Skapur Skapur 03:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)