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family name[edit]

I've changed the family name back from "Beilin" to "Baline" on the authority of the book by Berlin's daughter, Mary Ellin Barrett. "Baline" is the form used by the family itself, in spite of whatever immigration officials wrote down. His name was spelled IRWING, not Irving... "w" is pronounced as a "v" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.225.105.158 (talk) 15:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC).[reply]

pogroms[edit]

The article says:

"On September 14, 1893 the family arrived in New York City.... Tsar Alexander III of Russia and then Tsar Nicholas II, his son, had revived with utmost brutality the anti-Jewish pogroms, which created the spontaneous mass exodus to America. The pogroms were to continue until 1906, with thousands of other Jewish families also needing to escape, including those of George and Ira Gershwin, Al Jolson, Sophie Tucker, L. Wolfe Gilbert, Jack Yellen, Louis B. Mayer (of MGM), and the Warner brothers.^[1]^: 14 It has been suspected that the Beilin family also fled due to these pogroms, though there is no evidence to indicate that there were pogroms in Tolochin or Tyumen when the Beilins left for America. "

Almost all pogroms happened in 1905-1906. You don't have to be a mathematician to know that 1906 comes AFTER 1893. Thus pogroms of 1905-06 did not affect the Berlin family, living in New York. Nor were there any pogroms in Tyumen, where they lived before emigrating. The whole paragraph about pogroms has nothing to do with Irvin Berlin's biography, and I am greatly shortening it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:5680:1EAF:D0E8:B407:6BAD:2619 (talk) 02:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Age[edit]

In the WW1 section it says in 1917, Berlin was 30, but he'd be 29. Or is it supposed to be this way? 2603:8080:D400:7CD:2890:31AD:689D:148C (talk) 05:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Birth Name[edit]

On the current version of this page it lists at the top his birth name as "Rusha Picking". I cannot find a source for this anywhere. Everywhere else on the page lists his birth name as Israel Beilin. This seems like a problem. Sallysballs (talk) 15:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was just vandalism, by an IP. I've reverted it. Alarics (talk) 15:40, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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