Talk:Vulcan Raven

Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion June 15 to June 30 2004, consensus was not reached. Discussion:

Reads like a copyvio, though I can't find from where, makes no mention of what universe this apparently fictional character comes from, nonsense. RickK 23:50, Jun 15, 2004 (UTC)
I think it's from a game series called Metal Gear Solid. Joyous 00:15, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)
Yes, it definitely is, and it does say, but only as a note at the end. I added a note at the beginning though, but I'm not sure if it should be deleted, unless we can find that it's a copyvio. perhaps they just traced the backstory through the game? - Xgkkp 00:20, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
No vote (do we keep articles on Playstation characters? I honestly don't know), just a comment on the copy. It is highly unlikely this was copied from the web. I used Dogpile's advanced search, trying all sorts of combinations, and came up empty. It looks like it may have been paraphrased from multiple sources. One thing makes me wonder -- the unnecessary capitalization of "Mercenary" makes it look like it may have been copied from in-game messages. I have no way to check. Anyone? SWAdair | Talk 07:42, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- we keep articles on other fictional characters, and as games go it's a pretty big series. I think probably the original might have been copied from one of those "solutions" books that get sold alongside every major game nowadays. Now however, it looks more like a proper article. - Xgkkp 21:35, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The original stank of copyvio to high heaven, but I couldn't find it online either. Keep excellent new article. - Lucky 6.9 01:09, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
not a copyvio. I wrote it out. AmericanRobot 21:37, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- I highly doubt that. Of course I have NO proof, but I believe on intuition that no one would object when I call you a liar and plagarizer. And please use the discussion link next time. IF I was wrong, then PROVE it. I will only apologize when you PROVE that is not a copyvio. Cody The Blue Bomber 21:50, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

ill do as I please.

Well how about you PROVE that it is. No one else can PROVE that, because it cannot be PROVEd. Silly old cody the blue bomber AmericanRobot 22:06, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- That doesn't change the fact that you're a liar and no one has objected to it. Cody The Blue Bomber 22:11, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
  - I object! AmericanRobot 22:13, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
    - You're the only one who objects. How pathetic. If there is a consensus among Wikipedians that I was wrong to imply that you were a liar and plagarizer based on a strong intuition, then I will apologize. Otherwise, you are are a liar and plagarizer. Cody The Blue Bomber 22:18, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
      - I object. Please do not bite the newcomers. If you suspect that an article is a copyright violation, but cannot find a source for it yourself, it is appropriate to say "hey, I think this might be a copyright violation", and ask if anyone else has any info. I don't think it's appropriate to call someone "a liar and plagarizer" just because you don't think the article looks like their original work. —Stormie 11:22, Jun 20, 2004 (UTC)

Two comments here:
1. Please add comments to the discussion page (click 'discussion' at the top and edit there).
2. There's no need to SHOUT at people and throw insults around, and doing so doesn't help put one's point of view across. Let's try to keep the discussion civil.

— Lady Lysine Ikinsile 22:57, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)

My lord... I feel so childish... Thank you for your wise words Lady Lysine. Hopefully I can put The blue bombers hurtful words behind me. AmericanRobot 02:04, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- No need to feel childish, since that article is obviously a copyvio, in my opinion. Also, in my opinion it is better to bite a newcomer rather than having Wikipedia sued for copyright infringement. Cody The Blue Bomber 02:21, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Delete: useless pseudoinformation. Wile E. Heresiarch 21:33, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

End discussion