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A Winner of the September 2005 West Dakota Prize

Untitled[edit]

This entry, one of an unprecedented 52, has won the September 2005 West Dakota Prize, awarded for successfully employing the expression "legend states" in a complete sentence.

Apocryphal stories[edit]

A long-standing legend states that King Henry VIII´s coffin, lying in the ruined chapal at Syon on its way to Windsor for burial, burst open during the night and in the morning dogs were found licking up the remains. This was regarded as divine judgement for his desecration of the abbey. Stories like this are scattered all through Wikipedia. Any remark I might make would sound arrogant, so I keep mum. Wetman 02:48, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I think it's interesting and weird. I don't really see what's wrong with such legends. Although I doubt dogs would be just licking the remains.... unless they happened to be really well-fed. --Menchi 19:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Location of Syon Abbey[edit]

The article states that the abbey was originally located (when founded) in Twickenham, then subsequently moved to the Isleworth/Brentford location.

Other sources mention it as originally being sited in Richmond.

Can anyone definitively say where it was first located? WLD 18:00, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Title[edit]

This article has been renamed Syon Monastery for the reasons specified in the opening paragraph of the newly rewritten article, namely that it is more correct historically, and was the term consistently used by George Aungier in his standard work on the subject, History of Syon Monastery, London, 1840. The funeral brass of the last abbess Agnes Jordan at Denham, Bucks. describes her as Abbess of the monastery of Syon. It may well be that in the modern age, long after Dissolution, and long after the publication of Aungier's book, popular usage has adopted Syon Abbey, yet so far as I can discover that term was never used before 1840. As virtually all the many links to this article are to Syon Abbey, a redirect page of that name must remain, which has been arranged.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 18:14, 26 September 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Just passing by, the opening of this article is a bit of a mess - it seems to be arguing the case for why the article is called "Syon Monastery" in the lead rather than actually imparting any information. I can't claim to know enough about the topic to go about meddling with it, but for article titles we normally go for WP:COMMONNAME. Rob (talk) 16:16, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well applying your principles, common name in respect of bodies dissolved in 1538 (and in this case like most, losing all ecclesiastical use), would be monastery. Victorian mis-quotes and non-studious re-interpretations should be avoided in respect of such old bodies. - Adam37 Talk 21:31, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

True etymological roots of Syon marsh is[edit]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syen-Venn

or a blend of the aforesaid and...

Sion,_Switzerland - note Bishop Hildebrand of Sitten fared to England to give comfort to the netherlain Saxons by the soulless psychopathic Normans/forces loyal to Jewish supremacism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 (talk) 01:51, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wealthiest religious house before the Reformation[edit]

Really? That seems unlikely. I would have expected Westminster Abbey to be far wealthier. The reference offered for the claim is a failure. The article offers an annual income a bit over £1,000 at the time of the dissolution whereas the one on Westminster gives their income as £3,000. Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 00:08, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]