Talk:Rose O'Neal Greenhow

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Ishbel Ross Book References[edit]

Few questions I had regarding this page verus Ishbel Ross's account in Rebel Rose. Rebel Rose only mentions the four daughters (pg. 4) rather than eight children. It also mentions her prison room faced the prison yard (pg. 169) rather than a view that could be seen from the street. Lastly it lists that a small notebook was found in a small purse of O'Neal's upon her death and discovery on shore (pg. 237), but says nothing of searchers finding a copy of Imprisonment. SarahPML (talk) 21:43, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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How old was Rose O'Neal Greenhow when she finished her goals?

She didn't, she died! Duh! She was 47 when she died.

Some info from "American Civil War spies" that I didn't see in this article: "The Greenhows had four daughters : Florence, Gertrude, Leila, and "Little" Rose. Tragedy struck the family when Greenhow's husband died falling off an elevated sidewalk in California and succumbing to internal soon after little Rose's birth. After his death, Greenhow saw her oldest child Florence move west, and later, just before the Civil War, Gertrude died. Greenhow's sympathy for the Confederate cause grew after her husband's death. She was strongly influenced in her commitment to the right to secession by her friendship with John C. Calhoun. Greenhow's loyalty to the Confederacy was noted by those with similar sympathies in Washington, and she was soon recruited as a spy." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srfrantz (talk • contribs) 13:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Rose's early life[edit]

Was her father murdered by slaves?

According to Rose O'Neal Greenhow's biography, a personal slave Jacob was with Rose's father who was a well-known drunk.on the night when Mr O'Neal died. Mr O'Neal sent Jacob on ahead to tell the staff to make ready for Mr. O'Neal's return, which Jacob did. After a time, when Mr O'Neal did not return home, Jacob went back and found Mr O'Neal dead, having fallen from his horse and hit his head. Jacob had a trial and pleaded not guilty when he was charged with the murder, but no case involving a white man and a slave had ever ended in favor of the slave when a white man died and Jacob was hung for the murder of his master.

It would be a falsehood to state that Mr O'Neal was murdered by his slaves, no matter what the record may say because we have to consider the time at which this unfortunate event took place. There is a 50/50 chance at the very least that Mr. O'Neal died from the fall and was not murdered.

Janeey51@aol.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.167.3.23 (talk) 22:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification - do you have a page reference for the cite? And which biography was this in? Sounds like the recent one might have been more interested in correcting the record about "slave murders". I've marked numerous places in the article that have details that appear to come from the biography. If you have access, it would help readers if you would add the page numbers where material is found. Thanks!Parkwells (talk) 17:01, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

THE WOMAN AND HER FAMILY ARE AS EVIl AS hITLER — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.191.14 (talk) 18:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Birthdate?[edit]

In the main article, her date of birth is given as 1817, but in the lede, it is '1813 or 1814'. Can we be consistent? 86.148.132.157 (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We should identify the sources for the differing dates. I think the Library of Congress cite has 1813 or 1814; don't know the source of 1817, or what kind of record it's based on.Parkwells (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was the other way around - Blackman had "1813 or 1814", with associated data (year of O'Neals' marriage) that made it appear to be based in fact. I've used this, with a note as to NARA bio (it also had a different place of birth, but Fishel also had O'Neal Greenhow born in Montgomery County.)Parkwells (talk) 02:07, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rose's Death[edit]

Rose was on a boat along with many other passengers. When the sailors thought, (or did) see a Yankee Craft pursuing their ship she demanded a life boat for her and two other Confederates. She had gotten gold from a book she had written and her money was sewn into her dress. When the other boat was driven to the ground, her life boat flipped and because she was weighed down she drowned. People found her the next day and there was a full military ceremony, (funeral) 192.171.219.146 (talk) 20:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rose's Death[edit]

Rose was on a boat along with many other passengers. When the sailors thought, (or did) see a Yankee Craft pursuing their ship she demanded a life boat for her and two other Confederates. She had gotten gold from a book she had written and her money was sewn into her dress. When the other boat was driven to the ground, her life boat flipped and because she was weighed down she drowned. People found her the next day and there was a full military ceremony, (funeral) 192.171.219.146 (talk) 20:44, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]