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On 26 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Fort William, Lochaber. The result of the discussion was moved to Fort William, Scotland.

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Cromwell[edit]

I know the article was short and vague, but - correct me if I'm wrong - I thought Cromwell built a small citadel in the Lochaber region, which was about 50 years later superseded by a stone fort built with the more specific aim of controlling the region in mind. --Dweir

Errr, could be. I know Cromwell built a wooden stockade, and I assumed that was "Fort William" too. I'm not familiar with the circumstances with the changeover to the stone structure. -- Paul Drye

Can't find a book on the subject at the moment but the Inverlochy Castle website [1] has Cromwell building his "Citadel" in 1654 and Major-General Hugh Mackay of Scourie raising a fort on the foundations of Cromwell's citadel in 1690. It was rebuilt in stone over the next four years.

There are some excellent plans of Fort William on the National Library of Scotland website [2]. There is also further information in CANMORE on the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historic Monuments of Scotland site [3] jmb

Article title[edit]

Do we need this level of disambiguation? I wouldn't have thought there were that many Fort Williams in the world. --John (talk) 22:05, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

French claim[edit]

"French loan-words in the Gaelic language are very rare" - There are actually quite a few. Not very common, but not uncommon either.--MacRùsgail (talk) 15:16, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think 'rare' by itself is best? Removing 'very' wouldn't find very (ha!) much disagreement from me, but it is a significant fact that French loan words are really not as common in Gaelic as they were in the Norman impact on Anglo-Saxon. Essentially modern English is Norman Anglo-Saxon. Scottish Gaelic is Gaelic with Welsh inflection, and, you are right, more than a few French loan words.FelisRead(talk) 10:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, you should maybe take a look at the English, Norse and Latin loanwords into Gaelic, as well as Brittonic ones. Gaelic is not some "pure" language anymore than English is. English is just English. Gaelic is just Gaelic. They're not 'essentially' anything other than what they are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.79.113 (talk) 20:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 July 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to Fort William, Scotland. (closed by non-admin page mover) The Night Watch (talk) 19:37, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fort William, Highland → Fort William, Lochaber – Per WP:SCOTLANDPLACE. Convention is to disambiguate settlements in the Highland Council area by their district rather than the council area as a whole. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 19:31, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support, there are plenty of Highland & Fort William entries at Highland (disambiguation) and Fort William respectively, so potentially, Highland may be ambiguous dab. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:43, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also now opting for Fort William, Scotland instead of Lochaber but the reason I gave does not change that much. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 17:30, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Move to Fort William, Scotland. There aren't any other Fort Williams in Scotland. Geographical names should be disambiguated by the most recognizable unambiguous larger administrative unit, which in this case is the country. If the naming convention is promoting absurd titles, ignore it. Policies supersede local guidelines. Recognizability is the primary consideration at Wikipedia:Article titles, which is a policy. The naming convention is a local guideline. DrKay (talk) 08:35, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Move to Fort William, Scotland. --Devoke water 12:23, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Litter on the streets....the bins are full[edit]

Empty the bins 2A00:23EE:13D0:6844:FB93:D73D:9B02:53CD (talk) 14:39, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]