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Some things I'd expect to see[edit]

I'm nothing like expert on Tacoma (I live in Seattle), but there are at least three things I'd expect to see that aren't currently in the article.

Unless I'm mistaken, downtown Tacoma sits precisely on land that a treaty (from 1856, I believe) had given to one or more Indian tribes. Unless I'm mistaken, there was a significant financial settlement related to that in the 1980s or 1990s.

There is basically nothing here on the decline of downtown Tacoma that preceded its recent revival. That decline was certainly dramatic enough to merit some coverage.

There is really nothing outside of the demographic section that acknowledges race as an issue in the city's history. Given that in 1885 Tacoma drove out literally its entire Chinese population, and given the racial tensions of the late 1960s and early 1970s and the subsequent career of Harold Moss (city councilman, mayor, Pierce County councilman; see [1]) the African American presence probably deserves more of a mention. And Moss certainly deserves an article. - Jmabel | Talk 05:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In researching Harold Moss I came across a presumably citable article on the revival of downtown that also quotes Moss on how low the city had sunk in the 1970s. - Jmabel | Talk 06:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've now followed up on this myself. - Jmabel | Talk 00:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Black Collective probably also merits a mention (and maybe an article). It's now been going on for 4 decades. - Jmabel | Talk 06:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1885 anti-Chinese incident now mentioned. Thanks to whoever did that. - Jmabel | Talk 22:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The treaty in question is the Treaty of Medicine Creek, and the Puyallup land claims settlement was reached in 1990. Here's a source: [2]. Both are worth a mention, in my opinion. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:24, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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ASARCO smelter at Ruston and its legacy of pollution[edit]

Why is this prominent part of Tacoma's history and ongoing troubles not mentioned at all? Just because the little enclave in Tacoma where the smelter sat was separately incorporated? Dicklyon (talk) 05:07, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll collect some web-accessible sources here, and maybe I'll write something up, or someone might help.

There are plenty more. Dicklyon (talk) 04:12, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More information needed[edit]

See the Tacoma riot of 1885. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C0:7C80:8401:3891:B6A6:C553:4AE3 (talk) 16:34, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I stupidly over-looked the fact that the riot is actually in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C0:7C80:8401:3891:B6A6:C553:4AE3 (talk) 16:38, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 September 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOW closure, as with any proposed move that goes against WP:USPLACE. (closed by non-admin page mover) feminist (talk) 16:29, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Tacoma, Washington → Tacoma – The page Tacoma already redirects here, so the present title seems like unnecessary disambiguation. The city seems a likely primary topic based on both long-term significance and usage in published sources: according to William Bright, the name comes from a Native American word for Mount Rainier, of which the city in Washington is the namesake; other U.S. places derive their name from this original usage. The first few pages of GBooks search results for "Tacoma" are predominantly about the city. Similar titles in Wikipedia include Baltimore, Dallas, Denver, etc. Sangdeboeuf (talk) 05:02, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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2019 United States Census Bureau American Community Survey estimates[edit]

The ACP is a reliable source so why is it being removed? It is currently more accurate than the 2010 census numbers.Patapsco913 (talk) 22:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Racial Makeup of Tacoma (2019)[1]

  White alone (63.71%)
  Black alone (11.51%)
  Native American alone (1.82%)
  Asian alone (6.19%)
  Pacific Islander alone (1.03%)
  Some other race alone (5.31%)
  Two or more races (10.43%)

Racial/Ethnic Makeup of Tacoma excluding Hispanics from Racial Categories (2019)[1]
NH=Non-Hispanic

  White NH (58.05%)
  Black NH (11.20%)
  Native American NH (1.01%)
  Asian NH (6.13%)
  Pacific Islander NH (0.99%)
  Other race NH (0.48%)
  Two or more races NH (9.38%)
  Hispanic Any Race (12.75%)

Racial Makeup of Hispanics in Tacoma (2019)[1]

  White alone (44.37%)
  Black alone (2.43%)
  Native American alone (6.36%)
  Asian alone (0.47%)
  Pacific Islander alone (0.31%)
  Other race alone (37.84%)
  Two or more races (8.21%)

I think that they are perfectly OK to use until the census results are announced. At that point, they would need an update. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 19:37, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The captions need to specify that these are ACS estimates, separate from the decennial census, and should be prose-only to match the rest of the section. SounderBruce 19:15, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c "B03002 HISPANIC OR LATINO ORIGIN BY RACE - Tacoma, Washington - 2019 American Community Survey 1-Year Estimates". U.S. Census Bureau. July 1, 2019. Retrieved May 28, 2021.

The pie graphs on the main page are different than the ones shown here. And they don’t correspond to the percentages listed. I’m surprised no one caught this yet. Please correct the errors. Thanks

Mid-sized urban port city[edit]

User:KidAd reverted an edit which read:

  • "A port city, it is situated along Washington's Puget Sound..."

to read:

  • "A mid-sized urban port city, it is situated along Washington's Puget Sound..."

If it's a city, it's probably urban. Also, how big is "mid-sized"? Kind of unencyclopedic..."mid-sized". The input of others would be appreciated. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:10, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

mid-sized urban port city has been the language on the page since as early as April 2006. The change, with the edit summary size is subjective, and all cities are urban, was clearly made in error. Size, of course, is not objective. 15 feet is 15 feet. One block is one block. A city with 200,000 residents is not a city of 1,000,000 residents. KidAd • SPEAK 23:32, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Disambiguation of Tacoma Redirect[edit]

Hello everybody, I am requesting that Tacoma should not redirect to this city, but to Toyota Tacoma. See here the page view stats in the past 30 days: the city received 36,610 views, while the car received 50,352 views! Additionally, I would like to prove my point with a search browser. If you may, please search up “Tacoma” and see if you get results about the car or the city; it is clear that Tacoma has gained more attention than the city. Now this isn’t a move to change Toyota Tacoma into Tacoma, this is just a friendly redirect change. Thanks for your attention, and have a great rest of your day. DirtySocks357(WreckItRalph) (talk) 15:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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