Talk:Feyd-Rautha

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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Screen Rant Staff (September 10, 2023). "Dune 2 Is Already Fixing the Original 1984 Movie's Feyd Rautha Mistake". Screen Rant. Retrieved September 10, 2023.
Goyaz, Arthur (September 10, 2023). "Dune: Part Two: Austin Butler's Role, Explained". MovieWeb. Retrieved September 22, 2023.

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IMDb is one of the most reliable sources[edit]

Users cannot add just anything, even to the 'Fun Stuff'. It gets vetted by professionals. But just in case, I have added IMDb Pro. --GwydionM (talk) 18:57, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, the community has deemed it unreliable. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:USERG, IMDb is not an acceptable source. I've solved the problem by finding three reliable sources that note the absence of the character from the film.— TAnthony^Talk 20:32, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blacklisting IMDb is another of the bits of the official folly that the Wiki does. It is CHECKED PROFESSIONALLY, which makes all the difference. --GwydionM (talk) 08:15, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why remove photo[edit]

Don't understand why you remove this photo

Austin Butler Dune Part 2 - Feyd-Rautha - Wikipedia Vwqvj qwhiu (talk) 23:52, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message. I removed File:Austin Butler Dune Part 2.png for two reasons:

It is a copyrighted (non-free) image that you inappropriately uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, which hosts free images only
Please start a discussion here if you'd like to change a longstanding infobox image

Thanks!— TAnthony^Talk 00:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

all right, thank you :)) Vwqvj qwhiu (talk) 00:31, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Feyd's description.[edit]

I think the description of Feyd Rautha being as cunning as his uncle (the Baron) is incorrect, and an extension of the lamentably widespread desire to remake his character. Note how all the actors hired to play him do not resemble his description of being "round faced with sullen eyes". That better describes James Cordon than those who have played the role: Sting, Matt Keeslar, and now Austin Butler, who all have rock star pretty boy looks. Recall how Jadarowsky wanted Mick Jagger to play the part; at least Mick has the "pouting lips" that the Baron considered to be a genetic marker of House Harkonnen.

Feyd is never referred to as pretty, though he is lean and athletic. But the greater problem here is that although he is indeed a skillful killer, nobody ever described him as particularly smart. Smarter than Beast Rabban (his older brother) to be sure, but Rabban is a thug with a room-temperature IQ. All the cleverness that Feyd displays is the influence of Thufir Hawat, who after his capture by the Harkonnens subtly plays Feyd against the Baron, going so far as to engineer a nearly successful assassination attempt.

All of this burnishing of Feyd's character is a transparent attempt to upgrade him into an opponent of Paul. This is in no way supported by the source material. The two never even meet until minutes before Paul slays him at the end of the book. Yes, the Baron intended to put Feyd on the throne as puppet Emperor, but that was the Baron's plan, not Feyd's. We would be doing the world a favor by ending this Feyd-worship here on Wikipedia, possibly even documenting the unfortunate trend. GuyGadois (talk) 22:03, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I made an adjustment to the lead, but I can't say I really see really see how the article itself is glorifying Feyd in the way you describe. I added the CBR source which calls the character charismatic and cunning last year, but since then I haven't searched for more sources to further flesh out the article. Unfortunately we can't use our own interpretations, but with the new film coming out I'm sure more than a few discussions of the character in reliable sources have come up.— TAnthony^Talk 19:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

adaptation section formatting[edit]

the following section doesn't flow particularly well, it doesn't make sense to mention how the character was cast after the movie was made:

'The character appeared in the 2024 sequel film Dune: Part Two, and in March 2022, Austin Butler entered negotiations to join the cast as Feyd. Butler's role was confirmed in May 2022.

the it makes more sense to flip the wording as follows:

'In March 2022, Austin Butler entered negotiations to join the cast as Feyd. Butler's role was confirmed in May 2022 and the character appeared in the 2024 sequel film Dune: Part Two.'

EdeN6736 (talk) 14:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Good catch, some well-meaning editors updated the section to reflect the film's release without looking carefully enough at the wording and sourcing.— TAnthony^Talk 15:33, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Finnish origin of "Rautha"?[edit]

If the name Harkonnen is of Finnish origin, might the word "Rautha" also be related to the Finnish rauta, meaning "iron"? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 00:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article title[edit]

Shouldn’t this article be titled “Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen”? He is named as such in the original novel, and the article titles for the other characters use their full names (e.g. Paul Atreides, Vladimir Harkonnen) unless they were not stated in the novel (e.g. Lady Jessica). 138.51.68.164 (talk) 23:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]