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I'm not sure this is the right place for a tangental discussion on what the medal of honor is, and the anecdote about Patton and Roosevelt. That's more about the medal than Pueblo. Hondje 03:09, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree... I considered removing the text during my last edit, but decided against it at the last minute... Cperko 12:08, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of City Infobox[edit]

Being that Pueblo is the fourth/fifth largest city in Colorado, I think we need to add a template for those that live in Pueblo to edit for information on the city (much like that which is seen in both the Colorado Springs and Denver articles. I do not know enough about Pueblo to fill in the stats so I have not placed the template. It can be found by editing the forms in either city page. Please help this article!!Trodaikid1983 22:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There[edit]

are various references to a "Pueblo Springs, Colorado". Is there, factually, such a place?

Thank You.

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no, there is not. North of pueblo, there is a COLORADO Springs. thats the closest thing.

Part of the recent annex-land on what is now McCulloch Ranch has been refered to as "Pueblo Springs" but I have no idea if there's anything official about that name. See "http://www.chieftain.com/editorial/1196129070/1" Cperko (talk) 23:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clairafy. The Pueblo Springs ranch is 28 square miles of ranch land bought by a Las Vegas devlopment company that wants to devlop it. The city of Pueblo has already annexed a larriet aroound it and is working on annexing the rest of it and should be done this year. Acording to the 2007 econimic outlook by C.U. in Boulder it will have aproxmintly 70,000 houses or 200,000 people thus making it one of the largest planned couminties in the country. Also, acording to the Pueblo Chieftain it will spur devlopemt in unincorportied Pueblo county that lies between the Pueblo Springs ranch and the current city limits of Pueblo. That could include a business park focusing on scientific based companies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josseppie (talk • contribs) 21:23, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear...[edit]

Wow our little city is pathetic. People are scrounging up information about it. We are scraping the barrel and still it sounds pathetic. What other City Wiki talks about its airport as a fun place to visit. This city is doomed. It went from the 3rd largest city in Pueblo, to the 9th in only 10 years. How pathetic is that. Totallycharged 07:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pueblo is not doomed, in fact it has one of the brighest futures of any city on the front range. Mainly due to 3 factors: water, land, and location. Pueblo has the most available water of any major city in colorado with the most land to devlop and the best location (highway 50 and I-25 intercect in Pueblo as well as major railroads and finally two rivers). Pueblo did drop in the 20th centruy due to many factors most of which have been fixed and even C.U. Forecasts Pueblo to grow a lot in the 21st century stating so in their economic forcast for the region. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josseppie (talk • contribs) 21:34, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ok, I don't know where you got "most available water" due to that "let's sell our water to Colorado Springs" which inevitably led to the drought of 2002-2004, where the arkansas was so small that you could literally step over it. I mean literally step over it.. not hop, not jump, step. it was a foot wide. Land yeah.. I will give you that, but being in a desert isn't exactly ideal location though. and oh.. it is just one river, anda creek.138.192.34.107 (talk) 16:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • What I mean is Pueblo has enough water for a city close to 500,000 people and we are only 100,000 people and we are always buying more water. Our cost of water is lower then any major city in Colorado at 1.91 per 1,000 gallons with no restriction on how much you can use. During a drought obviously things change but to give you a idea as to how much water has the big drought you referred to was he only one Pueblo has to impose restrictions and only for about a month. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.176.29 (talk) 01:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photos[edit]

A few more are need for classB.LanceBarber (talk) 18:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Laugh In[edit]

It is Dan Rowan who came from Pueblo, not Dick Martin.

Add an education section.[edit]

We've got a fair amount of information about CSU-P and PCC in the overview. Thought I'd move it to a separate education section.

Picked up season tickets for the inaugural CSU-P football season - go 'Wolves! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gegen Besuch (talk • contribs) 00:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Second City"[edit]

Pueblo is called "Colorado's Second City" because, until Lakewood incorporated in 1969, it was the second largest city in Colorado. — Charlie (Colorado) (talk) 03:08, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Pictures and lead[edit]

As per WP:LEAD, this article goes way over the suggested limit on the lead. It also is poorly unstructured and does not properly summarize the entire article. Additionally, I have recently removed a large portion of the images because of the overload and uselessness of many of them. The images need to be kept to a minimum! If editors feel like the images contribute, then they can be placed in a gallery at the bottom of the page before the See Also. Images can also be grouped into categories on Wikimedia Commons. Pictures of pueblo could easily be put into a category and organized instead of packing as many as possible in the article here. Returning to the lead, it needs to be edited to standards and emptied of unrelated and overly detailed information about non-notable aspects of pueblo. A. Z. Colvin • Talk 23:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Free Catalog"[edit]

Is there any info on those ads which were ubiquitous on American TV throughout the 1970s-80s, which ended by asking people to write to "Free Catalog, Pueblo, Colorado" with no further address? Rob T Firefly (talk) 21:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Thatchers of Colorado[edit]

While visiting my mother's grave at Overleigh cemetery in Chester, England, I came across a massive obelisk in a freshly cleared part of the graveyard (the council is moving away the excessive vegetation including trees and bushes in the old part). The stone had the name John Thatcher born 1870 Pueblo, Col, died Chester 1891, a graduate of Yale. It is interesting that such a powerful family interred him in UK and did not repatriate his body to the US? I wonder whether any of the Thatchers ever visited the city? Moreover what was he doing in Chester when he died? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.107.241 (talk) 12:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strangely enough there is no mention of this Thatcher in the records...local history article.

Here is what my speculation looks like. This is NOT original research, because there has, so far, been no research at all. There is an article , the Thatcher Memorial Fountain ( I know because I just wrote it) that is placed in Denver Colorado. I did very little research into the family other than to discover that there is no wikipedia article about them. I’m guessing that John Thatcher is a son or nephew of the Joseph Addison Thatcher who got a fountain dedicated to him after his demise. John had somehow gotten himself born in Pueblo and then died during the Grand Tour of Europe following his graduation from Yale. Back in those days (1891) bodies were NOT shipped back to their point of origin but were buried in situ within 2 or 3 days. The cemeteries of Europe are filled with such cases. I consider myself right . . . ………. until shown to be wrong. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:31, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pueblo, CO in the tabletop game Shadowrun[edit]

Howdy! I am a random perosn who was born and raised in Pueblo, CO. At some point in my life I came across a video game for the SNES called Shadowrun. Years after playing that video game, I found out that Shadowrun originated as a tabletop game made by FASA, the same company that created Doungeons & Dragons. That being said, Shadowrun is just like D & D, but set inthe future with a cyber punk theme. Anyway, within the detailed mythos of Shadowrun, Pueblo is a "neutral city" for negotiations for the various "mega corporations" who run things. If anybdy plays Shadorun run and knows the details of it well enough that they know about Pueblo's place in that dsytopic future, I ask that they can provide some words to this article about Pueblo. Thank you much.

-Curtis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.121.151.247 (talk) 05:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FASA did not create Dungeons & Dragons; Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson created D&D and sold it under their own company, TSR. FASA originated the BattleTech game. 104.136.48.47 (talk) 03:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"3:10 to Yuma"[edit]

While watching 3:10 to Yuma (2007 film) i overheard something about "Little Pueblo, just south of the border by the river" Can anyone find this dialouge to confirm or debunk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.80.90 (talk) 19:09, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First presbyterian church picture[edit]

The pastors listed under the picture have retired in the last few years, so I'm going to change it to the current pastors. Zombiedude347 (talk) 12:20, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And it is not at all germane to an article on a city who the pastors of any church are so I am removing the names completely. John from Idegon (talk) 16:13, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As far as that goes, I don't see why two churches should be illustrated in this article at all. They are not notable or on the NRHP. Why should those churches be illustrated, and not even in a section on religion, and others not be? It is WP:UNDUE. Removed both photos. John from Idegon (talk) 16:18, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Possible Demographics Error[edit]

This sentence in the "Demographics" section appears to be incorrect: "As of the April 2010 census the racial makeup of the city was: 75.2% White, 2.5% Black or African American, 2.2% American Indian and Alaska Native, 0.8% Asian, 0.1% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, 4.1% Two or More Races." These percentages do not actually add up to 100%. 2604:2000:E827:5D00:D17D:A7ED:78B:2958 (talk) 01:34, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They match the source, which is the Census Bureau, exactly. I believe the discrepancy is due to the way Hispanic people were counted in the 2010 Census, but you are welcome to follow the reference link yourself and draw your own conclusion. Enough explanation for me is, "they're government figures. expecting them to actually add up is setting your expectations too high." John from Idegon (talk) 03:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Rankings[edit]

I see that an editor added a "best cities" ranking from a national organization, and another editor removed it as inappropriate, writing that these type of rankings are usually not included in Wiki articles. A quick check of the articles for Denver, Colorado, Boulder, Colorado, and Fort Collins, Colorado, finds that all three of these list rankings similar to the one removed from this article. That, of course, does not automatically make these rankings appropriate material for wiki articles, but it appears to be untrue that such material is usually excluded. Thoughts? Plazak (talk) 21:48, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is the "national organization" one that will show up as a wikilink? If so then I support your returning it. Carptrash (talk) 22:47, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The organization is the AARP, as published in AARP The Magazine, both of which are blue-linked. Plazak (talk) 02:26, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This type of content is as close to useless as can possibly be. Magazine A has a ranking in one year, changes the criteria next year and magazine B's ranking uses a totally different set of criteria. There has been a recent (within the last year) meta discussion on this. Very busy IRL, so it may take a day or two, but I'll find it and link it here. I cannot see an informative purpose for this content. I can clearly see a promotional reason for it. Last I looked, we're not here to promote. John from Idegon (talk) 05:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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communications and other assets[edit]

I notice that transportation is mentioned briefly as well as media outlets. Yet I could find no information about communication infrastructure. That could include land-line, cellular, wifi and high speed internet to homes and businesses. Very important to some people exploring a move or even a short visit to another city.

As a bonus, a simple statement that 'high speed internet is available' should be complemented with some information about cost and quality. A competitive communication infrastructure produces benefits for users, whereas a monopoly can be devastating to consumers.

Walmart is listed as a major employer, but not as an asset to the city. Assets could include major retailers, hotels, restaurants, hospitals, etc. Rather than provide advertising, perhaps these assets could be referred to generally: 'many fast food and sit-down restaurants are available in the xxx part of town'; 'a number of big box stores provide general merchandise and home improvement supplies'…

This is needed for most cities but I happened to miss it here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.26.29.44 (talk) 22:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peublo Steel Mill[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I saw that the CF&I Steel mill in Peublo, CO was missing a citation so I found a source for it, and I also plan to make some edits to the section as the summary is missing a few key points, such as the exact reasoning for the strike. That would include updating the summary to include the union contract expiration as well as the company response.n LAstudygroup23 (talk) 15:08, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Medal of Honor[edit]

The section on the city of heroes says that there are four recipients from Pueblo but the notable people section lists five. Is this a mistake, or is the idea to exclude the one from the Civil War, when the medal was given much more easily?Bill (talk) 00:21, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Crime[edit]

There seems to be no mention of the crime element in this city. It is ranked as one of the most dangerous cities in the US for its population. Perhaps somebody should add that statistic. 2601:281:D685:4360:B434:A75:242F:6B01 (talk) 21:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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