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Planning to Add New Sections[edit]

So this article is lacking quite a lot as it only has the definition of moral courage. I think it could need some new sections that can add some context to the definition. I was thinking of adding sections involving society, media, literature and sexual ethics. But for right now, I am in the process of looking for possible sources to use for this article. Kcueva (talk) 06:52, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-007-9182-8
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1523422308328500 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcueva (talk • contribs) 07:31, 17 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New sections added[edit]

So I have added two new sections to this ethics stub, diving into more of a sexual ethics approach to how moral courage can be applied. The parenting approach briefly discusses how moral courage can be applied when raising children who may have gender identity complexes and the workplace allies section demonstrates how the application of moral courage in a work environment affects LGBT employees.

Kcueva (talk) 05:56, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    considering that both gender identity and LGBT issues are still under debate as far as morality, would wikis voice not be implying that anyone who did not engage in "moral courage" as described would then be immoral, wiki's position is not to take side but rather describe. Considering there is an obivious slant to the article, i believe that the mention of gender or sexuality be removed entirely199.89.130.53 (talk) 20:35, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I support the idea of moving the two sections "Parenting approach" and "Workplace allies" to a more fitting article, alternatively an appropriate rework of the sections. This is not aimed to dismiss the quality of the work or importance of the topics. It's due to my spontaneous impression that the information is portrayed from an angle that focuses more on the LGBT and gender viewpoint, rather than moral courage itself. /Sethyntis (talk) 03:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Civil courage into Moral courage[edit]

de:Zivilcourage translates exactly into English as civil courage. Moral courage and de:Zivilcourage are InterWiki-linked.

Zivilcourage is closely related to, and IMO is a subset of, moral courage. The difference is that it is only civilian, and not civilian or military. Moral courage may be either. Both moral and civil courage extend beyond courage.

There are relevant additional citations and discussion at Talk:Civil courage.

If the merge is agreed, then civil courage should be turned into a redirect to moral courage.

Pinging Elmidae, Velella, Edaham, Pontificalibus, PRehse, E.M.Gregory, Sandstein and Ammarpad, who contributed to the recent discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Civil courage. Narky Blert (talk) 21:15, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also pinging Spartaz, who closed that discussion. Narky Blert (talk) 21:33, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Subsidiary proposal. Civic courage should redirect to moral courage rather than to courage. Narky Blert (talk) 19:45, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would support this merge, together with an expansion and sourcing overhaul of the civil courage content. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 05:59, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Not seeing sufficient sourcing to suggest there is a significant difference, nor that the 'civil courage' concept is notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:05, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re notability and sourcing, we did go through that :) - but the terms are largely synonymous. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:18, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Civil courage is notable all right. I have found and posted impeccably WP:RS sources from major newspapers and TV stations, a university, a peer-reviewed academic journal, a book by a respected historian, and the German Federal Police. The issue is whether it is independently notable of moral courage. I don't think it is. Narky Blert (talk) 19:52, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep just because there are several sources specifically covering this concept. Also, in my view, Civil Courage is oriented towards the secular whereas Moral Courage is philosophical. One may argue that the former can be subsumed under the latter (since Moral Courage is broader) but there is a distinction nonetheless. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:44, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]