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why was the statement removed that von and van are etymologically related? They clearly are. Andries 19:28, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
User:MosheZadka has moved the von and van discussion into a seperate article; the etymology information is included. So this matter can be considered as straightened out, I'd say :) -- Martin von Wittich 23:07, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
