Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magnetrixx
This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 00:49, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
Magnetrixx[edit]
Another psychedelic trance project article created by user:Ld from Germany. I recommend that its article be removed because it meets none of the Music notability criteria. It has 457 google hits 216.119.136.113 485 Lycos hits when searched with the word "trance", about the same number of psychedelic trance fanatics with computers. The individuals behind the artistic project, Stefan Lewin and Heike Fahrmeyer searched with the word "trance" get about 26 and 13 unique google hits, respectively. The project released two albums on Tatsu records, a label which has released a total of 15 albums (6 actual, 9 compilations). Magnetrixx's 4 labelmates with actual albums are also non-notable, each scoring less google hits than Magnetrixx, except Oryx with 477 hits (confusion with other Oryxs disrupted that search. With "psychedelic trance" gets 110 on Lycos). Neither Magnetrixx nor any of his Tatsu Records labelmates with actual albums are mentioned in the All Music Guide. 64.154.26.251 22:05, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. According to TripOut New York Magazine, "[Magnetrixx] have joined the ranks of some of the most sought-after German progressive psytrance producers and live acts on the international circuit today." They have been on several tours in the United States, including New York and Cleveland. [1] -Ld | talk 22:21, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: No offense, Ld, but where is your evidence that they had more than two stops on their United States "tour" in 2004. And more than one stop on their 2003 United States "tour"? They may have toured other places, there's just no evidence for it on their website or the article. I would ask the wikipedians to judge the extent of their "touring" for themselves at [2]. They don't use the word "tour". It lists 18 dates for 2004, with two festivals, but including a birthday party and a Christmas party. Please don't add misleading information to the article to save it. Let the truth speak for itself. If you need more time to establish their notability, just say so. 216.119.136.113 23:30, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. I did not create this article. It was created by 134.100.205.196 on 5/11/2004, and modified by several other people, including myself. See [3] for details. -Ld | talk 22:22, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. Funny how you added a discography, external link and text about touring (calling it a minor edit) 16 minutes after it was nominated, though. You obviously take quite an interest. 64.154.26.251 22:52, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- In fact, this is one of the side effects of VfD. When nominated for deletion, articles are often improved with additional information to prevent them from being deleted. In fact a while back I and several others helped improve the Afghan Defense Ministry in the same fashion to prevent it from being deleted. It is now an excellent Wikipedia article. If you see a stub that you believe is not useful, it may be worth to expand it rather than nominate it for VfD. -Ld | talk 22:59, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand that improvement aspect. You know, I was skeptical about there being only 0-3 trance articles that had a problem, like you said, but you were pretty on the mark--the creds of those artists that have articles in the List of psychedelic trance artists are pretty solid. I probably wouldn't have even nominated this group if I had had the latest flashplayer and was able to go to their site to see how extensive their touring was (their record label just gave a vague sentence). [Comment: Ld had made misleading statements again on the extent of their touring on the article page. The "touring" seems pretty minimal. I probably still would have nominated them 216.119.136.113 23:41, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)] If you have any info you want to put in about Fuzzion touring, I won't nominate them either. 64.154.26.251 23:55, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I dont know much about Fuzzion other than that they have one hit track and a number of EP releases. I'm not going to object if you nominate them. -Ld | talk 00:30, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think I have the heart to. It's obvious to me now that the comments that you left on the 1967 songs were meant to be a sort of a tribute through psychedelic trance artists of today to the first Summer of Love 64.154.26.251 01:17, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I dont know much about Fuzzion other than that they have one hit track and a number of EP releases. I'm not going to object if you nominate them. -Ld | talk 00:30, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand that improvement aspect. You know, I was skeptical about there being only 0-3 trance articles that had a problem, like you said, but you were pretty on the mark--the creds of those artists that have articles in the List of psychedelic trance artists are pretty solid. I probably wouldn't have even nominated this group if I had had the latest flashplayer and was able to go to their site to see how extensive their touring was (their record label just gave a vague sentence). [Comment: Ld had made misleading statements again on the extent of their touring on the article page. The "touring" seems pretty minimal. I probably still would have nominated them 216.119.136.113 23:41, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)] If you have any info you want to put in about Fuzzion touring, I won't nominate them either. 64.154.26.251 23:55, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- In fact, this is one of the side effects of VfD. When nominated for deletion, articles are often improved with additional information to prevent them from being deleted. In fact a while back I and several others helped improve the Afghan Defense Ministry in the same fashion to prevent it from being deleted. It is now an excellent Wikipedia article. If you see a stub that you believe is not useful, it may be worth to expand it rather than nominate it for VfD. -Ld | talk 22:59, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. Funny how you added a discography, external link and text about touring (calling it a minor edit) 16 minutes after it was nominated, though. You obviously take quite an interest. 64.154.26.251 22:52, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, under the bar of notability. Megan1967 02:27, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, two real albums and several real EPs - David Gerard 14:05, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Kappa 10:39, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:39, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep; notable within a significant cultural movement that happens not to be highly web-connected (good for them, maybe?). Jgm 15:48, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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