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categories[edit]

I've just added the categories Post-apocalyptic novels and Speculative fiction novels to this article. If there's no disagreement, I'll add the same categories to the articles of the individual novels. 218.215.190.3 (talk) 07:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed that Dystopian novels is a sub-category of Speculative fiction novels, silly me. 218.215.190.3 (talk) 07:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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"Dramatic audio" implementation.[edit]

The Left Behind franchise was put into audio form (not audio-book, but dramatized with sound effects). It was done by Gap Digital (www.gapdigital.com). Why isn't there a page on Wikipedia about this? It's also hard to find references to it on Google. I thought that the episodes were very professionally recorded with good actors. Much more entertaining than the books themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.59.150.74 (talk) 06:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From premillenials[edit]

This section needs to be rewritten. I don't know enough about eschatology to say whether I'm offended or not, but the fact is a lot of people believe in the rapture and a neutral encyclopedia has no business in bashing them like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supernerd 10 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move Parsecboy (talk) 14:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Left Behind (series) → Left Behind — Proposal is to locate the article about the series at Left Behind and the article about the specific book at Left Behind (novel). It seems quite probable to me that the phrase "Left Behind" is used more often to refer to the series, and the franchise, as a whole, than to the series' first book. For example, the first ten results of a Google News Search (as of this writing) all use "Left Behind" to refer to the series, not the book. Propaniac (talk) 17:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Comment on the "Criticism" Section On the Left Behind Page[edit]

I don't know if anyone else agrees, but I thought all the info on how the series was criticized by some people was too extensive. It looks like someone who didn't like Left Behind went in and wrote down a long list of complaints or something. You know, the criticism part is the longest part of the whole article. It's excessive, and I think it needs to be revised. Not the whole thing, just cut out some so the page isn't one sided, or maybe balance it more by adding commentary on the positive reception the series received. --69.128.204.110 (talk) 03:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC) has this won any awards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.188.34 (talk) 21:27, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The criticism section is about, lengthwise, close to 40% of the page. By word count it is definitely at least a simple majority. Additionally, the criticism regarding Hinduism and Buddhism is un-referenced. More seriously a free lance writer is used for the basis of the Judaism critique. She even has her own link, lol. A substantial portion of her work is about her bigotry against Christians. Magazine/Freelance writers are all about "finding" controversy. You need more than a secular Jew with a hard on for Christians as your "authority" on why this series is against Judaism. Frankly, by definition, anything Christian is anti-Jewish and vice versa. That's kinda the whole point, right? Early Christianity developed in large part in contrast to the dominant Jewish threads at the time. When the Jews were almost exterminated by the Romans, Judaism was reformed in Europe with an eye on maintaining its distinctiveness vis a vis Christianity. A little yin and yang occurred here between the two great traditions. So you would have to show that some "special" threshold was crossed to make such a statement.

Also, not coming from a Protestant background, I find that many of the concepts at face value to be very complex and substantially different from my own experience. I would bet a lot of people are in the same boat, including Protestants. If anything, the Protestants developed a lot of intriguing and original ideas about the Divine that are not shared by many other different Protestant sects. So if you are going to have a substantial section on the criticisms you need to have a sufficient summary within the article at a level that would allow one to even understand the values and ideas the criticisms purport to oppose. Although there are links for the "pro" side here, you could have done the same with the critiques and provided a minimalist section with links that show appositive ideas.

Anyway, I plan on reading these books and perhaps contribute afterwards. I came here after watching a YouTube video of Kirk Cameron on the Piers Morgan show. I wanted to see what he considers his normative religious basis to be. Thanks.BinaryLust (talk) 05:02, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the criticism section is too lenghty. I think many of the criticisms could be summarized into a notice in the beginnning of the "Reception" section that states that many of the viewpoints are controversial (even among Christians), and so the books have recieved wide criticism for several specific interperetations of Revelation. Also, in one of the books (Armageddon, I believe, but possibly The Remnant) Chang, Tsion and the elders to pray for God to remove the mark of the beast from Chang (and He does), so contrary to what the entire "Premillenialists" subsection is criticizing, Chang did not have the mark of the beast at the time of the judgement of the tribulation saints. Although I think the points I made here are very good, I am refraining from editing the article because I am not a registered user. However, if somebody wishes to contact me on a matter relating to the article, my e-mail adress is mvmlego@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.217.197.137 (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm tempted to fill in the missing "Protestant" section but I don't have enough theological background to make an authoritative statement. All I can say is I attend and work in a Protestant church and most of the concepts of "Left Behind" are utterly alien to me, and I suspect to most Protestants. 2601:C2:201:2B85:C4A9:DD49:1200:856F (talk) 06:50, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Book Section Order[edit]

Okay, I can understand the idea behind listing it primarily in chronological order but it's just confusing. It makes more sense (and almost every other book series) listing in in publication order and then making note its chronological order (the opposite of what's done on this page). The reason for this is that the reading order matches the publication order. You don't start a series by reading the prequels, you start with what was published first. Just my opinion.72.89.142.185 (talk) 17:38, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Catholic[edit]

Under the section labeled Catholicism there is a statement in the first paragraph stating that many thought the books were anti-catholic since many Catholics were not raptured. Some might interpret this to mean the authors were anti-catholic; therefore, the books are anti-catholic, which they are not. There is a distinction between being anti-catholic and being anti-catholicism. Tim LeHaye wrote the book Revelation Unveiled. The material he included in this book indicates that he can be considered anti-catholicism rather than anti-catholic. Neither are the books anti-Jewish. Different cultures, races, and different lifestyle groups take serious offense and issue public statements of "prejudice!" when an opinion differs from their own rather than examine the statement rationally. I would like to see the article make note of the difference between anti-catholic and anti-catholicism. Fredrikke Taylor67.65.160.92 (talk) 19:53, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Tom Clancy/Dan Brown mentioned so much in this article?[edit]

I see no need to constantly reference how the Left Behind books are like other populist books? Is it some weird attempt at legitimisation?2.126.127.10 (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't read the article in that much depth. Can you cite the locations of these comparisons in the text? Ckruschke (talk) 19:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)Ckruschke[reply]

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NPR: Sales approach 80 million copies[edit]

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/25/487382209/tim-lahaye-evangelical-legend-behind-left-behind-series-dies-at-90 I'm not sure if that's for the adult series or if it includes childrens series sales, but might it improve the article to indicate sales, perhaps in the intro? Bob Enyart, Denver KGOV radio host (talk) 18:57, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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