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Tarquin, I'm afraid this is a bit of Alan Moore's stuff I am entirely unfamiliar with; would you care to do this please? user:sjc (talk) 11:20, 15 August 2002

I've not read it myself, it's just one of those bits of pop culture I've picked up by osmosis. Alan Moore's TLOEG mixes up Holmes, Jekyll, Mina from Dracula and a few others (Moriarty, I think). -- Tarquin (talk) 03:43, 16 August 2002
Sounds very Alan Moore. I enjoyed V for Vendetta immensely and kind of lost track, dunno why. I'll see if I can look out a copy. Was it recent? user:sjc (talk) 03:44, 16 August 2002
http://scifi.ign.com/articles/312120p1.html, http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/317/317027p1.html -- looks like a film is on the way -- Tarquin (talk) ​11:22, 16 August 2002
Thanks Tarquin. I have managed to get hold of a copy from a local secondhand comics shop. Looks fascinating. I'll save it for when I go on holiday, though. user:sjc (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2002
If you go to the pjfarmer.com, you'll find a mind-boggling amount of Wold Newton material that's just crying out for its own Wiki. 216.113.216.12 (talk) 08:10, 8 October 2002

Category for WN characters?[edit]

Should there be a category for Wold Newton characters, as a sub-cat of Category:Wold Newton? There's certainly plenty of literary figures out there to populate the category. I have no issue with getting started on it, but I wanted opinions first.
--Brian Kurtz (talk) 16:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Upon further consideration, it would probably be more efficient to simply make a list page. A list can also include supporting characters who are not important enough to warrant their own pages. I haven't found any existing WNF list pages, so I'm going to start putting one together. I should have a meager list eked out by the end of the day. Will link to this article.
--Brian Kurtz (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
--Brian Kurtz (talk) 18:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found this on the above mentioned page:

Comment. I'm not sure that you could do that, since your website seems to be licensed under Creative Commons. I could be wrong here, but I think that you need to have GFDL to be able to have content from Wikipedia. I agree with several editors above in that I think that creating a Wold Newton wiki on Wikicities would probably be the best solution, in which case you could just transwiki this article to it. ergot 15:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I checked Wikia, and there isn't a WNF one as yet. Anyone else interested in a Wold Wikia? I agree with the above idea that Farmer's ideas be foremost. Perhaps a distinguishing feature (Type face or color, perhaps both) should be used to distinguish Farmer's concepts (he has had several articles published, and stories set in his (The ORIGINAL) Wold Newton Universe. ---Icarus 23 (talk) 08:28, 11 October 2006

And for all you deleters out there: HAVE A JAKE! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Jake-Note.jpg Icarus 23 (talk) 05:16, 14 October 2006
This is a misunderstanding. He can use it on his website, he just has to have a notice on each of the page(s) using Wikipedia content that says they're GFDL rather than the CC license he uses on all the others. Also, the requisite credit to Wikipedia. Andrew Levine (talk) 13:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clan Destine[edit]

Isn't the concept of Clan Destine (from Marvel UK) somewhat similar? Luis Dantas (talk) 20:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Warren characters[edit]

It would indeed be a good thing to have a WNU Wiki; for instance, that a look at this - http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/warrenverse/vampi_and_the_time_force.html Luis Dantas (talk) 20:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Jose Farmer's Wold-Newton versus Pretenders' Wold Newton[edit]

I think it seeming that differentiation be made in information and links between the Wold-Newton family provided by Philip Jose Farmer and that of others: fans and licensed authors alike. It is important that such an approach secure what is of Farmer's work and what is artificed by others. As pretenders to a familial line, these latterday revisions and substantiators of claimants needn't be scorned but should at least be noted as pretenders. 71.13.148.189 (talk) 03:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

smallville[edit]

Seems like the meteorite shower that provided seven+ seasons of easy plots is a direct steal from this mythology. Markwinsf (talk) 01:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

what of Heinlein's "Number of the Beast", his apparent Take on literature that all writing worlds, are real accounts, and are interwoven vigenettes in one giant work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.51.185.34 (talk) 02:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Asking the question that begs to be asked...[edit]

I realize I possibly am opening a discussion of the subject rather than the article, but I do so only in the hope that the response will be incorporated to the article itself.

The question that begs to be asked relates to the list of characters that Farmer allegedly included in the "Family", as given in the section, "Members". This list includes Solomon Kane, Peter Blood and The Scarlet Pimpernel, all three of which pose a problem. If the "Family" is of characters "mutated by ionization" caused by the falling of a meteorite in 1795, how could two seventeenth century adventurers (Kane and Blood), presumably deceased several decades before the impact, be affected? Likewise, Sir Percy Blakeney was already an adult and had been rescuing French aristocrats for over two years before the meteorite fell.

Are these inclusions (a) in error, (b) another example of fancruft padding of the list, or (c) did Farmer offer an explanation of how these characters possibly could have been affected?

My reading of the article stopped dead at that point because I could not rationalize how those three could be included. It makes no sense without an explanation. Canonblack (talk) 14:10, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Wold Newton/Illuminatus! connection: revisiting an early easter egg nest[edit]

Hey there Selam As you may know I postulated years ago Hagbard Celine's membership in the Family based on information to the intro to Vol.'s 2 and 3 of the 1975 Illuminatus! Trilogy. An extended explanation is on my old wikidot here: http://fnord.wikidot.com/hagbard-celine The closest I got to an admission to this that I got when I was researching the Illuminatus! comic was Bob Shea's comment when asked of "Now what do you think?" As there is a TV series of the Trilogy in the works, it's a good time to revisit this. As this well founded theory is based on my original research and in an article written by me I'm limited in what I can do by Wikipedia's procedures I've already put a note on the Hagbard Celine talk page about Hagbard being Doc Savage's half brother. Anyway, if anyone wants to approach this, because I can't, it would be awesome. Kallisti! Icarus 23 (talk) 22:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]