Talk:4-6-0

Removed two images

I removed two images because the wheels could hardly be seen. I don't think that makes them a good example for a wheel arrangement page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Morven (talk • contribs) .

I put them back, because the one thing we don't need to see on every picture is the wheel arrangement. It should be common to every picture on the page. What we need to see is different styles of engine, and these US models are quite distinct from the UK ones Sandpiper 21:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see your point. I withdraw my objection, then. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 22:07, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I also cut down those images so they took less vertical space. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 04:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

delisted GA

lack of inline cites--Ling.Nut 21:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

German „Freight Express“ Locomotives

Hi, there is a bad translation error here. Schnellzuglokomotiven (S) are not „express freight“, but express-service passenger locomotives. The Prussian S10^1 4-cylindre compound by no means is a freight loco.

The three main classes S, P and G (Schnellzug, Passagier, Güter) differed in the diametre of coupled axles, S-class locos beginning about 1,80 metres and going upwards over 2,10 metres (6' to 7'). P-locos were intermediate range, often used for regular-service passenger trains; G were the freight locomotives of ~5' and less.

Old express locos were also found in regular trains, and regular P-locos also led express-service trains (especially in hilly and mountainous areas), and G-locos could also transport commuter trains.

If an S-loco was used as a freight locomotive in peace-time, then there just was no other loco to be found. Prussian freight locos were the G8¹, G12 or G8² for main lines, with the G8 and G10 for subordinate lines.

As a rule, from the locomotives that entered the DRG number system:
01-10 DRG express locos
11-19 express (passenger!) locos from former state railways (BR 19.1001 was the big odd man out, the upper-saxonian 1'D1' XX HV was the „regular“ 19)
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21-29 DRG passenger locomotives (as the Prussian 2'C-h2 P8 was so pervasive, only few were built)
31-39 state passenger locomotives (38: 2'C; 39: 1'D1')
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41-52 DRG freight locomotives
51 (at the beginning) - 59 state freight locos (again, 59 was the only 6-coupler, Wurttemberg K 1'F)
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(60)61-69 DRG passenger tank locos (60 was a 1'B1' streamline from former Lubeck-Buchener private railway)
71-79 state passenger tank locos (eg. pr. T18 2'C2' which shared many parts with the P8 and G10)
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80-89 DRG shunter (R) and freight (Gt) tank locos
89-96 state shunter and freight locos (96 was a D'D Mallet type, Bavarian Gt 2x4/4; 95 was the prussian 1'E1 T20 after the „Animal“-class of Halberstadt Blankenburg private railways)
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97 Cogwheel locos (DRG and state railways)
98 state-built Ptl (Passenger, Tank, Local - rural over-land shuttle trains)
99 Narrow-gauge locos (again, DRG and state railways)

Thus, by a simple glimpse on the class you can see whether it's Express-service, Regular passenger, Freight or Express/passenger tank (only one express tank: class 61) resp. Freight tank/shunter; and whether it was built by German Imperial Railway Society (DRG) or from one of the pre-1920 state railway organisations/former private railways.

39 and 95 entered service with the DRG, but were planned by the Prussian-Hassian State Railways (P10 and T20), thus they are part of the „former state“-range.

PS: If you see, especially in Austria, „DRB“ that's because the German Imperial Railways dropped the „society“ (Gesellschaft) in 1937 and was re-integrated into the ministry of traffic. In literature, for German locos DRG is used also in 1937-1945 because even new 52 and 42 (freight!) war locos were built according to the DRG Unified Building Guidelines (modified) from 1925; but when Austria and other railways were annexed in 1938+, they only „saw“ the DRB. DR is for the GDR railways past 1945; as the Berlin accord said „the train traffic of whole Berlin shall be provided by Deutsche Reichsbahn“, they kept the name (and the service). --79.196.10.135 (talk) 22:01, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

B 15 and PB 15 classes of australia are forgotten

As stated above.. How dare you forget my favourite locomotive classes.. 120.159.124.115 (talk) 06:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)