Talk:Erich von Stroheim

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Is this original material, or copied from another source? It isn't really encyclopedic. RickK 02:30, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)

It looks alright to me now: history shows quite a bit of work on it. Ellsworth 14:20, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Just wondering how his film "Greed" can be "mostly lost"? Is it lost or isn't it? Perhaps the author meant that certain parts of the film are lost?

Greed was originally a six-hour-plus film. It exists in current format of about two hours in length, but the full version is lost.

Right - so I'll change the wording a little bit, if that's all right.

The following is confusing: "a nine-hour film of which only a two-hour fragment has survived, however there still remains an approximately four hour version." Blima3000 17:49, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That means someone took the two-hour version and interpolated some scenes based on still photos. What happened to the original film is really horrible, basically the studio head didn't like it and ordered that the original negative be recycled for silver recovery. There's a biography from the 1970's(?) that goes into this at length.

I had never heard that Stroheim's native language wasn't German. Any idea what it was? Phr 00:01, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's of course utter nonsense. In "Five Graves to Cairo" (1943) Stroheim plays field-marshal Rommel. He has no trouble speaking German but he fails utterly in his attempt at a Prussian accent. Instead he always falls back into the softer sounds of his native Viennese dialect. I should know, I'm from Vienna myself. Perhaps the alleged remark by Renoir refers to this same "problem". Ver sacrum 20:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't there be sources for the claim that his biography has factual errors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.177.42.143 (talk) 20:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In The Great Gabbo, Stroheim speaks German briefly, but his language shows signs, as far as I can tell, of a heavy American accent.

Stroheim's Native Tongue Skills[edit]

Renoir was exaggerating a bit about Stroheim's lost ability to speak his native tongue. In his only german production "Alraune", made in 1952, he can be seen talking perfectly. His Viennese accent is very heavy though and indeed has a decidedly lower/middle class tinge, as Wilder has pointed out.Wilutzky 06:06, 11th March 2009 (CEST) —Preceding undated comment added 05:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Felled by a stroke?[edit]

Is it true that he had to be wheeled into the Légion d'honneur award ceremony on a bed? 81.158.42.208 (talk) 21:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last year a real life Sunset Boulevard?[edit]

I have an 1978 encyclopedia called "Out of this World" that describes the last year of Erich von Stroheim's life as a kind of real life Sunset Boulevard with the fact that he was effectively broke being hidden from him by Denise Vernac. To pay the staff of butler, cook, two maids, and a gardener Denise Vernac had to sell Erich's Cadillac but the buyer allowed it to remain on the property to preserve the illusion of Erich still being well off. The article ends with the statement that the very day Erich died the Cadillac was collected and staff paid off and Erich's final expensive 'set' was stuck.

I was wondering if there were any supporting evidence for this or if it was a kind of life imitates art psudohistory that tends to crop up around stars and directors.--BruceGrubb (talk) 11:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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