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Plot summary length, in Season overview[edit]

Since each episode has it's own page already, the descriptions for seasons 4, 5 and 8 and a few random episodes throughout should have their summaries trimmed for consistency. (Season 'X' -Main article) Notice all other season episode summaries are a sentence or two and no more. Just an FYI to anyone willing, that is, not me. Everybody likes to feel useful. Make a da world go 'round. Back to you Tom. 174.88.20.139 (talk) 03:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

lol, nice reference...I concur on shortening though. CTJF83 chat 06:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recent format changes: FL vs MoS[edit]

With all due respect to Pedro Thy Master, I think it's a question of taste as to whether it "looks better" to go with the Featured List version of this list, as opposed to the way it was before, so claiming that as a criteria for change really requires a community consensus. Beyond that, I'm not so sure the Featured List version really fits with Wikipedia's Method of Style, which calls for a consistent look throughout the project. The previous version of this list is the one most episode pages are using, and being familiar with that, that's what looks better to me. Also, the claim that it's easier? To whom? With the Featured List version, we have to edit the season page to add new episode data, then have to manually add portions of that data to the main list, as opposed to the other way which is a fully transcluded single edit to the season page to change or add any information to both. I respectfully disagree with Pedro's assessment, and believe the page should be reverted back to the way it was. KnownAlias contact 13:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with KnownAlias completely. "Looking better" is a matter of personal opinion and, aside from leaving out specific information, this style leaves an enormous amount of white space on the page. I also believe the page should be reverted to the way it was. SchrutedIt08 (talk) 12:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
First off, I was the one who added this format to the article. Both times. I did not add it to the article because I feel it "looks better," or simply to get it to featured list status, I added it because it eliminated a lot of the unnecessary formatting that came with the previous template, most of which, since you were the one who brought up "what looks better," looked horrible on smaller screen resolutions, especially when paired with eight similar templates. There is no reason whatsoever to revert to the previous format, and making baseless claims, mostly hindered on a comment by someone uninvolved with the format, does nothing to make me want to support your viewpoint. Gage (talk) 21:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear this disscusion has been made before, User: Grande13 has the same opinion the artiocal was tried to change various times and he kept revrting them back to the original form, and yes Gage did make the change of format, i only reverted it as my opinion, plus when trying to edit the season articals to maybe pass an FL criteria it could create a big problem. --Pedro J. the rookie 22:45, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In spite of initiating this topic after being reverted on this matter once (which, by the way, editors, is how you discuss changes), I refuse to be invested in the obvious turf war this has started to become. I reverted the edit ONE MORE TIME while simultaneously posting this comment, in the hopes of reigniting the conversation that some editors, only in their edit summaries, say they want to take place. The topic has been open since August 25, and apparently closed since 10 days after, which was almost two months ago. If everyone is so set on discussing this, here's a good opportunity. KnownAlias contact 20:15, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I still hate this formatting, and have since given up doing any editing on any of the Family Guy pages. Pedro thy master and GageSkidmore seem to be under the mistaken perception that they own this page and as such rule it like a couple of Nazis. But whatever, I haven't got the energy to go back and forth and back and forth with these two so if they want to format the page like this and do double the working keeping it up to date, then it's their own funeral. Why should we care? SchrutedIt08 (talk) 10:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May 1st Episode[edit]

Wasn't there a new episode scheduled on May 1st? and if so why is it not listed here? TheGoofyGolfer (talk) 04:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See the opening paragraph of Seahorse Seashell Party CTJF83 06:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect shortcuts[edit]

I just made some redirect shortcuts to make it easier to get to pages (FG EP1 to FG EP10). Here is a list of all the shortcuts related to List of Family Guy episodes, Family Guy etc.

I think this is all we need. 987li (talk) 15:20, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To me EP means episode, some while not bad redirects, it's not spot on for what you would think to type to get to a season page. CTJF83 10:18, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I thought of that, but I think that EP also means season in this way, because if you're looking for an episode, you wouldn't type the episode number, you'll just either look for the season page that the episode is in, or just search for the episode name. also, FG EP redirects to "List of Family Guy episodes", so "FG EP1" should mean "List of Family Guy episodes (season 1)"987li (talk) 15:14, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Plus no limits on redirects CTJF83 01:11, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

adding more on tables[edit]

I thought of an idea to put "grades" on the episode table based on reviews used in Family Guy episodes for season articles and/or this page. Would something like this be a good idea? Koopatrev (talk) 06:24, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

# Title Original air date A.V. Club grade TV Fanatic grade TV critic grade
1 "title1" September 25, 2012 (2012-09-25) C 3.5/5 40/100
summary1
2 "title2" October 16, 2012 (2012-10-16) B+ 4.2/5 37/100
summary2

Valentine's Day in Quahog[edit]

The episode Valentine's Day in Quahog where we meet all of brian's old girlfriends should be aired on 10th pr 17th February, 2013 to keep the episode near to Valentine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.102.34.194 (talk) 17:43, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Air Dates and Production Codes[edit]

I like the list ordered by date, but I notice that the production codes jump all over the place. Would the production codes offer a prefered viewing order? --66.110.6.119 (talk) 12:53, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of Futurama episodes is the only one I've ever noticed sorted by production code. Personally I like air date better. CTF83! 00:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Typically, as with The Simpsons, The Cleveland Show and American Dad!, episodes are ordered by their broadcast date, which also corresponds to the order in which they appear on the DVD releases. Futurama is only ordered by their production codes and not by their air dates because there was such a massive discrepancy between the order in which the producers intended them to be shown and the order in which the network broadcast them. Also, the Futurama DVDs are rearranged to reflect the production order and are not shown in their broadcast order, unlike Family Guy. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 00:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the update. Yes, Futurama actually came to mind as I have the DVD sets and considering the odd arangement of production codes for Family Guy, ignoring the fact that the episodes are largely independant of each other, I was wondering if there were an alternate viewing order. If the DVD sets are in order of aired date, they the production codes have very little importance overall other than trivial. --66.110.6.119 (talk) 14:46, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can confirm Family Guy DVDs are in broadcast order and not production. I agree production codes are just trivial. CTF83! 02:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hour-long Episodes should count as two back-to-back episodes[edit]

I was thinking that since hour-long episodes of Family Guy have two production codes, they should also count as two separate episodes back-to-back. -- StewieBaby05 (talk) 16:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. The episodes were not aired back-to-back, but as a singular episode that happened to be twice as long. This is true of all the DVD releases as well. They only count as one episode in every way except that they have two production codes. Fox doesn't consider them separate episodes, neither should we. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 22:51, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disagree, per Schruted reasoning. StewieBaby, you also need to wait more than a day or 2 to change something, that isn't enough for a consensus. CTF83! 06:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming epsodes[edit]

On September 29th, I added "The Simpsons Guy" to the Upcoming episodes list, later got reverted by STATicVerseatide because he claims that since it's not a upcoming episode of Season 12, it should be removed. I later asked him does it matter, then reverted and fired back at me with a attitude: "Well no duh it does. The title of the article is "Family Guy (SEASON 12). The prose/ref above says the ep will not air till the 13 season, so the info should not be in this article." I really didn't want to scoop to that guy's level that day. Then today, I re-added it, and got reverted by the same user. I told him that it didn't matter if it was not a season 12 episode. From the past of 2012 to today, I still see unscheduled episodes from the previous season (Season 11) that has never aired, and also from the new episodes that were just added, we don't even know if it will air on this season (Season 12) or the next season, who knows? I mean really, is it necessary to remove one episode from a list when possibly others won't premiere this season either? --Blurred Lines 19:38, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That was the only one covered in the prose, that specifically said it would not air this year that is why I only removed that one. If any of these "upcoming episodes" are not specifically sourced to air during the 12th season, then they should also be removed as I had said already, they do not belong there if there is no reliable source confirming them to air this season. Also there is no reason to resort to personal comments, comment on content not contributors. Also @Taylor Trescott: removed it, not just me as your post implies. STATic message me! 19:46, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with STATic - if an episode is confirmed to be appearing in a specific season, there's really no reason to include it in another season's article. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 19:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Taylor Trescott: What exactly do you mean by, "if an episode is confirmed to be appearing in a specific season, there's really no reason to include it in another season's article"? I clicking on random links from the copyright catalogs, and I don't see a specific season of when it will be airing, so I have no idea what your implying for. --Blurred Lines 20:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are sources that say the episode will be airing in the 13th season, like this. If we find other sources that claim upcoming episodes will air in a different season, then move them. Taylor Trescott - my talk + my edits 20:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Please discuss logo here. My only comment is that other episode lists do not have logos. We may need input from someone familiar with image policy. EvergreenFir (talk) 04:54, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other pages do have logos. Lots of them do. A WP editor used to create them himself and apply them to LoE pages such as The Walking Dead, True Blood and Game of Thrones. They're not simply decorative, they serve as a primary means of visual identification beyond the article lede. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 05:46, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The difference is that a lot of other TV shows use logos that are made up exclusively of text and geometric shapes, which are not copyrightable (to an extent), and therefore we can create versions of them for use on articles. With the Family Guy and American Dad logos, they include elements that are not simple geometric shapes (such as the TV in the Family Guy logo or the representation of the American flag in the American Dad logo). Therefore they cannot be considered "free" images and cannot be used in any article without a Fair Use rationale, which requires that the image is used only in a critical or educational manner; that is not the case on this article, where the use of the image was purely decorative. – PeeJay 13:22, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And no, they do not serve as the primary visual identifier for those shows, the name of the show does. – PeeJay 14:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Showrunners[edit]

Can we start adding the name of the showrunners to the individual episodes of the show, kinda like The Simpsons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HialeahFL (talk • contribs) 21:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden Series Episode List[edit]

Hello, I have went ahead and change the episode list to be collapsed to save a TON of room and scrolling. This way you can easily see the season you want. I would like some opinions before anyone reverts it. Thanks. CCamp2013 (talk) 08:58, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The entire point of this page is to display the episode information, hiding it makes no sense. There is nothing in any of the rules of guidelines that states the page is too long or needs something like this to be done. You're editing based on your own personal preferences, which is a bad way to go about editing. You should have started a discussion before making such a radical change to the page. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 12:01, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Overview[edit]

I don't think deleting a lot of data from the Series overview table just because of a guideline made this list any better, but actually made it a little less informative. What I'm trying to say here is that I think that this edit: [1] by SchrutedIt08, should be reverted, because it has worsen the list. -Hypree (talk) 22:02, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it's a stupid rule, but it's part of the official guidelines now, so why should this page be exempt from the rules just because you disagree? If you want to challenge it, the talk page for the MOS guide would be the place. -- SchrutedIt08 (talk) 22:47, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are taking the guide too literally, it's a guide, not a law. You should follow the spirit of the guide, not to take it literally and following it 100%, like in this case where a very informative table was made much less informative = worsen. I bet you have heard this before but must have forgotten If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it. PER WP:IAR. You should also read this. -Hypree (talk) 21:57, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Logo[edit]

I noticed the show's logo isn't in the lead section. Isn't its use here classified as fair use? 177.140.128.197 (talk) 18:23, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the logo here would be purely decorative, which is not consistent with policy. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:31, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. I asked because The Simpsons logo is used in both the main article and the episodes list, and I thought a similar case would apply here. Thanks. 177.140.128.197 (talk) 15:35, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Simpsons logo is free content, Family Guy's is not. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:38, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Unscheduled Episodes Change[edit]

Now that it looks like the episode listed under "Unscheduled Episodes" titled "The Letter" is going to be upcoming in the current season, I went ahead and removed it from the "Unscheduled Episodes" section. If for whatever reason I did something wrong, please let me know here! Thanks. 108.34.228.32 (talk) 23:14, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I just commented it out for now, just in case I shouldn't have removed it, it will be very easy to revert. If this change is correct, then the entire line can be removed completely from the source, which I will do once I've made sure I didn't make any mistakes. 108.34.228.32 (talk) 23:33, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to Unscheduled Episodes section[edit]

I am not sure why SWAGEDITS123456 insists on changing the header, but am willing to discuss and listen. So what's up. Why do you think those are Season 15 episodes? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 06:59, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I assume it's because season 15 will probably be the next season, but any assumption about a particular season is original research and is therefore not permitted by policy. Nor is the incorrect capitalisation. I'll just note that SWAGEDITS123456 is the editor who recently added unsourced reports of an "unnoticed" renewal for season 15 to the main series article.[2][3] --AussieLegend (✉) 10:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Overall episode numbers[edit]

I've noticed that the overall episode numbers are wrong, as Brian & Stewie is the 150th episode, but is listed on this article as #143. Does anyone know why this is and can anyone change this then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hc94 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Season 11 only 22 episodes instead of 23?[edit]

Any Particular reason why there is 22 episodes listed for season when Netflix, Hulu, ITunes, and Fox all list 23?MitchellLunger (talk) 23:21, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There are only 22 episodes listed in the season article. The sources you mention may include "200 Episodes Later", which was a special that aired between episodes 4 and 5. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism[edit]

None of the episodes yet-to-come entered by 24.80.92.254 actually exist in the WebVoyage copyright library database. "The Unkindest Cut" is the last valid episode on the list. --2602:306:CE29:B50:3420:600B:2F0B:3301 (talk) 10:18, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of "Unscheduled episodes" section - recommend splitting this page due to WP:PEIS limit[edit]

All but two of one of the items had completely bogus references.

The remaining one was a photo of the front cover of a script from 2019.

The main reason I deleted it though was because this is a WP:Featured article and it's running up against the post expansion include size limit, causing templates at the end of the page to not show up.

Before I removed this section, the {{reflist}} template did not work. This is not acceptable for a Featured Article.

I recommend that this list be split. However, it should be done in a way that preserves "FA" status for at least one of the resulting pages, if not all of them.

As far as restoring the "Unscheduled episodes" material, go ahead and restore it, but not until it is reliably sourced and not until it can be done without causing major technical issues, such as making references not show up. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 21:31, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Informal RFC - should the "unscheduled episodes" section be dropped?[edit]

I removed it but was reverted, so it's discussion time.

Should this section be removed? If not, what should be done about the now-dead references, and what should be done about the post expansion include size problem that is keeping the references from showing up? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 16:39, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly shouldn't be allowed to stay in its current form because as you point out most of the references are bogus. More than two are acually valid, mind.
As for "non-dead references" and "post expansion include size problem", I don't know what these mean. Whatever they mean, if they can be somehow be fixed I wouldn't be against someone reinstating the section on condition that all references are valid. Barry Wom (talk) 16:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone through the references and it seems the first 13 entries (production code TBA through KACX20) are valid. Note that you have to search by Registration Number on the copyright website.
The whole section does seem to fall foul of WP:CRYSTALBALL though. The only references are to copyrighted scripts. How do we know they will definitely enter production?
ETA: Sorry, the entries for LACX01-LACX03 appear valid too. Barry Wom (talk) 18:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Barry Wom: About post expansion include size - it's one of the technical limits of Wikipedia. When you hit it, pages start displaying improperly. NOT what you want with a Featured Article. Today's changes get the page under the limit, but it really is time to split the page, because the limit will be hit after a few more episodes are added. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 20:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It does seem faintly bizarre that a simple list of TV episodes made it to featured article status in the first place, but I guess the simplest solution would be revoke the FA status and allow the page to continue to grow.
The other option might be to remove the lists of individual episodes from each of the seasons, leaving links to the main articles for each. All of the information is repeated in the main articles anyway so nothing would be lost.
Barry Wom (talk) 11:02, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Barry Wom: Revoking the FA status won't stop the references from "disappearing" when the WP:PEIS limit is reached again. This is an issue that needs to be addressed. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 04:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing is wrong with the Unscheduled episodes tab. However, if the source is fake it needs to be removed. This is why I requested semi-lock and a week didn't do jack. CartoonnewsCP (talk) 03:51, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unscheduled Episodes (general)[edit]

Just out of curiousity, will season 19 have 22-23 episodes? Since i assumed that Fox was following a pattern of some sort, as the last five seasons have had 20 episodes? I see unscheduled episodes, and in total, that would add up to 23 episodes. I am just trying to figure out if in fact these have went into production and have been scheduled to air.--Anthony hello123 (talk) 04:06, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's simply a list of titles which have been registered with the US Copyright Office. None of them have airdates as yet and it's almost certain that a few of them will not be part of the current season. Barry Wom (talk) 09:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Templates[edit]

I think the templates are broken cause they’re not showing up. Can you guys fix it? 2600:387:C:7216:0:0:0:5 (talk) 00:20, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Massive star[edit]

Why is there a massive star at the start of the article. How do we get rid of it? Sirhissofloxley (talk) 17:25, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Season 4 last 3 episodes[edit]

Shouldn’t the last 3 episodes be put in one box because they aired on the same day because they aren’t in the same box and so all the episodes after the numbers are messed up because Stewie kills Louis is episode 100 but on here it’s 102 as a example 2604:3D09:B87D:ED00:A521:94EC:F14C:BE47 (talk) 03:46, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First year and years???[edit]

Materialscientist and Bzik2324: I believe that Bzik2324 is correct in that the series first aired in 1999 and subsequent numbering of seasons and years. See Episodes section in Family Guy. David notMD (talk) 03:56, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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