Talk:Arcangelo Corelli

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He was born at Fusignano, in the current-day province of Ravenna, and little is known about his life.

This seems inaccurate. Did they mean to say little is known about his early life? From the rest of the article, we are pretty clear about his movements. User:FeanorStar7

"...it is said that he refused to play, as impossible, a passage which extended to A in altissimo...". I know Corelli made limited use of the violin's capabilies, but I find it highly unlikely that he would find such a range as IMPOSSIBLE to play considering his renowned technical prowess and status of violin playing in Italy during that time. It seems like a historical exaggeration to me. Regardless, I don't think it's biographically relevant, and in it's questionable nature, I would like to see it removed. Can any reliable sources be cited to strengthen its case? Sicilianmandolin

I'd like to see the story removed. It sounds apocryphal. Maybe he didn't write for higher up the neck because so many violinists can't sound in tune without overdoing the vibrato.

Anyway, my comment is about the word "mannerly" in the second-to-last paragraph. "Mannerly" means polite or courteous, and doesn't convey any information when applied to music. "Mannerly" music? Especially with the next comment about stretching the rules. Having listened to Corelli, I think the author of the article is trying to say that the accompaniment is supportive and not distracting - doesn't get in the way, is "laid back" - but the word "mannerly" doesn't convey this well. I can't think of a word to replace it, but I'm suggesting that that sentence needs some work.77Mike77 (talk) 04:14, 28 January 2013 (UTC) Dadaszehon (talk) 12:42, 18 January 2015 (UTC)Corelli's music is still remembered today, mainly due to his lively and emotional composing style. This is thanks to his then-new cantabile style, which mainly rejects the ancient polyphonic style and uses more melodic elements through the concepts of orchestral foreground, middleground, and background. Is this true?[reply]

Editorial comment moved from article[edit]

I've moved an editorial comment made in the article to this talk page. I don't feel confident enough to fix it myself. Here is the paragraph it refers to plus the actuall comment. Graham87 07:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His first major success was gained in Paris at the age of nineteen, and to this he owed his European reputation. From Paris, Corelli went to Germany. In 1681 he was in the service of the electoral prince of Bavaria; between 1680 and 1685 he spent a considerable time in the house of his friend and fellow violinist-composer Cristiano Farinelli (believed to be the uncle of the celebrated castrato Farinelli). [I believe the above paragraph to be specious - where is the evidence that Corelli spent his youth in Paris and Germany rather than in Bologna and Rome? Here is a link to a more thorough source: http://www.hoasm.org/VIIIA/Corelli.html - Charles Fischer]

Graham87 07:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Musical Influence[edit]

This article needs some more work. I think that there needs to be more done highlighting Corelli's considerable influence on the development of musical forms and style. This is all we presently have in the article, with a couple sentences later in the article.

The style of execution introduced by Corelli and preserved by his pupils, such as Francesco Geminiani, Pietro Locatelli, and many others, was of vital importance for the development of violin playing. It has been said that the paths of all of the famous violinist-composers of 18th-century Italy lead to Arcangelo Corelli who was their "iconic point of reference." (Toussaint Loviko, in the program notes to Italian Violin Concertos, Veritas, 2003)

This composer deserves more[edit]

I´m not competent to contribute, but Corelli is an important figure in the history of music and it is sad that the wiki article is a bit short. Compromiso (talk) 17:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The article needs more information emphasizing on his significance for the Baroque Era and citations regarding the music-theoretical analysis of his work. Omnipaedista (talk) 15:36, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia[edit]

I´m sure I´ve heard something from the Christmas Concerto in a different film than the one cited, but I can´t remember which, sorry. Compromiso (talk) 17:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Benefactor[edit]

Who exactly was the benefactor and friend to whom Corelli left his wealth? Bluefox79830 (talk) 02:36, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Corelli's most important patron was Pietro Ottoboni (cardinal) (not the one linked in the article). However, it is not clear to me whether he was indeed the benefactor of Corelli's estate; the German Wikipedia say it was his friend and pupil Matteo Fornari.

Also: I find it strange that the value of his estate should be given in marks, not a Roman but a German currency. This whole paragraph stems from the first version of this article on 17 March 2002 by User:Amillar who gave "1911 encyc text" as the edit summary. Someone needs to check that or other sources and clarify the text. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The wrong Ottoboni[edit]

Attention! In the 3rd paragraph under "Biography" Pietro Ottoboni links to the pope, where is should lead to the cardinal, Pietro_Ottoboni_(cardinal).

—IM 77.74.115.189 (talk) 15:36, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sarabande[edit]

It should be noted that Opus 5, Nos. 7 & 8, are popular pieces among classical music listeners, and often known under the the title "Sarabande".77Mike77 (talk) 04:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Multiple Pronunciations Unnecessary[edit]

This article begins with five different ways to pronounce the subject's name. Is this necessary? Is it really that difficult to figure out how to say his name? All those extra ways to pronounce it and the references for them just clutter up the opening sentence. ONE pronunciation is sufficient. Many, if not most, biographical articles don't even have one pronunciation given, let alone five! MusicTree3 (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear language in Corelli article[edit]

Most of the entry sounds as though it were translated from another language. This, for example: “also crystallizing models of wide influence .” I have no idea what that means.

There are also extremely long run-on sentences that seem to lose their way.

I’m am grateful for the information presented, but wish it were clearer. 2600:6C5D:41F0:560:CD6D:FB00:27AD:C8D6 (talk) 05:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]