Talk:Gimp (sadomasochism)
I removed this from the article:
Gimp is usually tall and skinny for this is likely to determine submissive sexuality [research by dr W.D. on his subject (POKRAK)].
because well it doesn't make any sense. If you can make it make sense, please feel free to put it back in. The reference to research on the topic (if that's what that is) should be made into an actual citation. (And what the hell am I doing editing this page?) Nohat 02:12, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- That seems to be the stereotype, but it'd be hard supplying a citation to support that.-h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 14:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I've added the Robot Chicken reference[edit]
I've added a robot chicken reference. If someone sees an error in it, please correct it. 4.230.240.145 05:40, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Remove the Jess Fox/Gandolf the Gimp reference?[edit]
Another famous gimp is Jess Fox, or more commonly known as "Gandolf" or "Gandolf the Gimp". She appeared in many 90's gimp-themed pornography films. Google doesn't know about her, nor about "Morris Van Schie", a man who was identified as "Gandolf the Gimp" in another version of this page. Further, google doesn't know about the title of "Gandolf the Gimp" outside of this article and one reference on myspace.
Almost certainly not a BDSM term[edit]
The discussion cited below concludes that there seems to be no evidence of the word "gimp" being used in a BDSM context before Pulp Fiction, and that the film inadvertantly prompted the usage. Co-screenwriter Roger Avery's use of the term may have been intended to imply that the character in question was a mentally retarded man ("gimp" being a common US slang term for "cripple") used as a voluntary sex-slave.Large satsuma (talk) 17:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC) http://community.livejournal.com/little_details/1633497.html
"English sexual psychotherapist and author"?[edit]
The only Google hit for "Antony Oswin" is this article. "Anthony Oswin" yields no relevant results. Can we remove this section, as there's no evidence to back it up? (unless someone can find this bloke). Etymologies based on acronyms are almost always spurious, and so that explanation shouldn't be allowed to stand without supporting evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcgazz (talk • contribs) 18:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. The OED indicates that gimp has long been in use in the US to indicate a stupid or contemptible person. I have taken out the para in question. Colonel Warden (talk) 20:47, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
A verified source indicates the term GIMP was coined by an English sexual psychotherapist and author, Antony Oswin to describe a subject he dealt with who as a BDSM subordinate, constantly wore a black leather mask in a manner resembling the 'Man in the Iron Mask', from the book by Alexander Dumas, for self sexual thrills. This accronym GIMP stood for 'Guy In Mask Permanently'. The female version he stated was 'Girl In Mask Permanently' creating a gender neutral designation of the term. The term was subsequetly seized upon by the large BDSM communities across the globe.
