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[Early comment][edit]

Her claim notwithstanding, it is difficult to see the record as more than a general reply to the Rolling Stones.

I just wrote the german article and found out that Guyville = male-dominated Indie scene, so I guess she just wanted to use the famous title and wanted to express that she is attacking this scene now. unsigned comment by DCEdwards1966 added 23:01, October 25, 2004

Phair commented in interviews that the album was a song-by-song reply to the Rolling Stones' 1972 album Exile on Main Street. Her claim notwithstanding, it is difficult to see the record as more than a general reply to the Rolling Stones.

These two sentences seem to contradict each other. Do critics agree or disagree that the album should be viewed simply as a reply to the Rolling Stones? --Russ Blau (talk) 19:59, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Clumsily worded, but not contradictory. Phair had claimed in interviews that it was a song-by-song reply to Exile on Main Street, but most critics say that claim doesn't hold up under much scrutiny and now most people think that she was just saying that as a ploy to gain publicity (which she may have admitted as much later on, but I'm not sure). An example: it's hard to see how the raunchy "Flower" has anything to do with its Main Street counterpart, "Let it Loose". Exile in Guyville is still taken, however, as a more general reply to either Exile on Main Street or overall works of the Rolling Stones.--Weebot 22:59, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I think I see your point. How about, "Most critics do not accept her statements at face value, although the album can be seen at least at a general level as a response to the Rolling Stones."? --Russ Blau (talk) 22:03, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine. I'll put it in there--Weebot 21:29, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

CD label[edit]

What's the picture on the actual CD? I've never been able to make it out at all. Not even sure which way up to hold it! Cardinal Wurzel 17:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On a site entitled "Stratford on guy" by some guy named Aaron, if you look in the FAQ's, that question appears and his response is that its a distorted image of two Barbie dolls, Barbie and Ken maybe, "celebrating" the release of Exile in Guyville. I tried to see that, but no matter how I do it, even with that knowledge, I can't see anything. 165.138.141.60 15:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most critics[edit]

"Most critics"??? Did someone take a poll of the critics? On the point of whether the CD is or is not a reply to "Exile on Mainstreet", Phair has been contradictory. In one interview, she said that she used "Exile on Mainstreet" as a way to arrange her music. In another, she said it was a song by song reply. The CD speaks for itself. ..

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Gold?[edit]

The current article states that the album was certified gold in 1998, but had sold just over 400,000 copies by 2010. Confusing because a gold certification means 500,000 copies sold. Can anyone clear this up? Morganfitzp (talk) 21:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good spot. I've checked the sources for both claims and they do indeed contradict each other. As the RIAA's own site says it was certified gold in 1998, I assume that's correct, as the second source is based on secondary reporting. For now I've just removed the second claim until anyone can think of anything better to do or do further research. Popcornfud (talk) 19:25, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]