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Peterhof and Peterhof Palace[edit]

I started to split and sort out waht in the Article was to much about the Palaces and Gardens, and I mooved it to Peterhof Palace article. to keep in this one a more balanced overview of the City Peterhof, since this article should be about the city and not about the palaces hosted in the city. Of course the Palaces should be mentionned in the article, but the detailed description and history of the palaces should be written in the article Peterhof Palace--Sosoev (talk) 14:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC) --Sosoev (talk) 14:12, 21 January 2010 (UTC)Sosoev[reply]

Sea Channel[edit]

So the Sea Channel extends all the way to the sea? I'd like to see more information about the channel, whether it's salt-water, when it was constructed, etc. Kent Wang 16:53, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It was dug during the initial construction of Peterhof, and yes, it extends all the way to the sea. I thought the article made it clear that it was part of Peter's initial intent that visitors could sail in boats from the Gulf of Finland up the Sea Channel right to his front door.
As regards the salt content, I'm not sure. During the museum's operating hours, the channel receives a significant inflow of fresh water from the fountains, primarily at the end but also along its length. However, fresh water is less dense than salt (and in this case it may be a bit warmer, too), so I would expect some salt water to remain at the bottom of the channel at all times. At any rate, there doesn't seem to be any device to block the entrance of seawater. --Smack (talk) 18:45, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Finnish Gulf near Peterhof isn't salty at all, so is channel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.223.24.64 (talk) 23:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another question about Peterhof[edit]

Hi! I am in a middle of a bet battle: which one is larger, Peterhof or Versailles. I understand they are not fully comparative as Versailles is a town, too. But the actual areas of royal parks, sizes of castles, fountains, anything? For Peterhof found 1,02 sq.km, is that all? "Lady in distress" needs your help! (country: Finland)

As far as the structures themselves are concerned, Versailles is certainy the larger. (Peterhof was never a primary residence - that would be the Winter Palace. I'm not sure, but I'd hazard a guess that all of the buildings of the Peterhof complex are smaller than the old Louvre.) I don't know about the grounds, though, as I didn't really see what Versailles has to offer in that respect. --Smack (talk) 23:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

trick fountains[edit]

I'd like to know how the trick fountains are triggered and the engineering of the fountain. Are all of them triggered by stepping on a rock?

The original trick fountains were probably triggered by people in strategically placed booths. I suspect that some of them may still be, but that may be a false memory. The table with fruit is probably triggered by an electromagnetic sensor that sees people's hands. --Smack (talk) 05:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
At least some of them are still triggered by people in booths. Near the "tree foutain", I think, the booth is clearly visible. Another one, less obvious, is the bench with random water jets. In fact, there is a guy behind, sitting on another bench, looking like he is asleep, who use a foot pedal to start/stop the water. I have a couple of photos showing this, I can upload them on commons if anyone is interested. Schutz 21:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

== Peter's work area (Cottage Palace?) and the dining tower - no mention? Our guide had us spend more time in the seaside cottage. Marching through one ornate room after another gets a little monotonous. The cottage was supposed to be a direct expression of how Peter really liked to live and work. I'm surprised it got no mention in the article. I also remember a tower on the west side on the Gulf where the dining table was raised through the floor already loaded up. It was to allow the diners to enjoy the view without waiters carrying everything up and down the stairs.

As for the trick fountains, our guide showed us where the levers were. Everything looked mechanical to me. Step on a plate and it let water in.

bombing[edit]

I heard that Stalinf bombed peterhof when he overheard that Hitler was planning to celebrate newyearseve there, and that the red army killed hundreds of its own civilians with this action. Is it true? -- 145.99.202.92 16:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

no, it isn't --MaryannaNesina 21:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

history[edit]

¡Hi! I'm not a full english languaje user, but I think that the history part must be in the upper part of the article, like an introduction. ¿I'm right? Saludos... Rakela 22:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC) sorry by my english... i just love my languaje...[reply]

I think someone needs to re-organize the format. Sorted by themes or timeline is espcially helpful.--Balthazarduju 17:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine the Great's flower[edit]

http://jrandomhacker.info/The_sentry_in_the_middle_of_the_Peterhof_Palace_lawn

Does anyone know if the sentry story is real or not? -- Sy / (talk) 18:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling[edit]

What is Petergof for God's sake? Russian g = Latin - h Russian x - Latin - ch Why does Wikipedia (the fake Encyclopedia or the world's ultimate collection of misinformation) try so persistently to present all Russian proper names phonetically - English is not phonetic language, Russian is NOT phonetic either (though more so than English) pronunciation changes over time, there are both historic conventions of how placenames are spelled and also proper rules of transliteration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.190.74.28 (talk) 13:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, thanks for believing in us and all the compliments. The answer to your question lies in our romanization guidelines—WP:RUS to be exact—which is based in no small part on the BGN/PCGN romanization of Russian, which, in turn, is the primary romanization system for Russian geographic names (and as such I believe qualifies as "proper" by your high standards). Per the same guideline (and at the same time addressing your "historic conventions" concerns), the article about the palace complex is located where it should be—at Peterhof Palace.
Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 22, 2010; 15:19 (UTC)

Well the English spelling in this case is completely incorrect, but "г" does is not always used for latinic "h" and "х" certainly doesn't = "ch" that is the letter "ч" While indeed "Petergof" is completely incorrect, you are adding "misinformation" as well with your poor understanding of my native language.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.177.121.133 (talk • contribs)

Depending on your country of residence, please address the complaints of "poor understanding of your native language" to either the United States Board on Geographic Names or the Permanent Committee on Geographical Names for British Official Use, who jointly developed the BGN/PCGN system of romanization of Russian, according to which the Russian toponyms are romanized, and which has been widely used since the 1940s. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 4, 2010; 13:23 (UTC)

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