Talk:Theodore of Mopsuestia

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There is no mention here of Theodore's commentary on John. An English translation of fairly substantial Greek fragments was published early in 2004. It is interesting for two reasons: (1) it seems clearly orthodox; (2) the contrast with the Syriac version is fairly serious: it suggests that the attacks on him may have been at least partly due to using inaccurate translations. I believe the article on the Three Chapters needs at least a reference to the continuing concerns about the accuracy of the summaries used as the basis for Theodore's condemnation. This recent publication seems to cast even more doubt on the condemnation. --hedrick@rutgers.edu

There is a problem with having material from sources almost a hundred years old, as much work has been done on Syriac texts involving Theodore,e. g. the Tonneau and Devreese edition of his baptismal catecheses in 1949.The presence of older material fills a gap, but poses problems of style for those wishing to complement it. These remarks hold a fortiori for the extensive use of Philip Schall in other patristic contributions. Recent research (Nina Garsoian and others) points to an influence of Theodore in early Christian Armenia,creating the circumstances which led to Proclus' Tome to the Armenians- ---Clive Sweeting

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Saint?[edit]

This guy's considered a saint isn't he? At least in the west? Where is his saint-box, his feast day, etc? Rwflammang (talk) 01:45, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saint?[edit]

Does the Assyrian Church consider Theodore a saint? No Church which accepted the Council of Ephesus does as far as I'm aware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.12.135.254 (talk) 20:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why is He venerated in syro Malabar church[edit]

There is basically no citation or references or any sources to prove he is venerated in syro Malabar Catholic church there it must be removed unless someone provide sources 69.94.81.165 (talk) 15:39, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Non-encyclopedic tone[edit]

Evagrius makes this statement on the authority of one Theodulus, a person otherwise unknown. We may safely reject it, so far as it derives the Christology of Nestorius from this single interview.
Theodore died at the age of seventy-eight, having been all his life engaged in controversy, and more than once in conflict with the popular notions of orthodoxy; yet he departed, as Facundus (ii.1) triumphantly points out, in the peace of the church and at the height of a great reputation.
This condemnation of Theodore and his two supporters led to the Controversy of the Three Chapters but we may point out one result of Justinian's policy.
It was scarcely before the 19th century that justice was done by Western writers to the importance of the great Antiochene as a theologian, an expositor and a precursor of later thought.

The article starts out encyclopedic in tone, but slowly becomes more like an essay or blog article that aims to vindicate the subject as an unsung hero by the end. I'm no historian so I can't argue for or against the work or character of Theodore, and don't want to obscure a problem (if there is one) by my ignorance by my making misleading claims (if there are any) look acceptable. 47.135.229.230 (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. That kind of language may be fitting on the talk page, but not in the article proper. If a statement can safely be rejected because it is not properly sourced, it should not appear in the article in the first place, unless the statement is of enclyclopedic relevance because it was formerly widely believed, but even in that case the wording in the article should be different than it is at present.

Unfortunately, the article as a whole is poorly sourced, so clean-up is not easy. Nikolaj1905 (talk) 12:15, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]