Talk:Hubris

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First image[edit]

The first image is described as "spiritual descent of Lucifer into Satan". What does that mean? Editor2020 (talk) 03:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Further reading[edit]

The addition of two general references to the article Hubris was made by an IP address with [Revision as of 20:12, 28 July 2005 presumably to support the text it introduced. None of those additions are in this text. One reference {{1911}} has already been removed the other "Fisher" is currently in "Further reading" I am going to remove it.

I suggest that someone who cares for this article look through the further reading and remove any bullet points that appear to be the sort of cruft that builds up in "External links" and "Further reading" sections in old articles (Fisher being typical example).

-- PBS (talk) 10:55, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Aristotle quote[edit]

Can somebody verify that that quate from Aristotle is actually real and from him. The citations seem to imply that it is taken from Rhetoric, but I looked up Aristotle's Rhetoric on two different sites and found no mention of hubris, nor anything contrasted with revenge the way the alleged quote contrasts hubris with revenge (although the work does bring up several times) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.121.6.113 (talk) 05:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete[edit]

This article should be deleted because WP is not a dictionary, refer WP:NOTDICT. 182.239.147.173 (talk) 09:06, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does a dictionary entry really include the ancient Greek origin – common and legal usage; modern usage, including arrogance; and religious usage in ancient Greece and Christianity of one word all in prose format? By that logic, delete the article Allah. Yes, I know I'm talking to a brick wall seeing the six-month difference between our comments. ~~lol1VNIO⁠🎌 (I made a mistake? talk to me) 21:45, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removing OR[edit]

Hubris, especially as a concept in Ancient Greek literature, is certainly a notable topic, and there's plenty within that context that could be expanded on in this article (Odysseus, for example) but I think we need to be careful about connecting anything that resembles hubris from modern times unless we have reliable scholarly sources connecting the two. Any old use of the word "hubris" or any other thing that kind of looks like it doesn't belong in a broad-concept article unless reliable sources connect the two.

Relatedly, i don't think arrogance should redirect here - that article should... probably not even exist except as a disambiguation, but we can certainly put the dictionary definition of arrogance on the dab page. - car chasm (talk) 07:41, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also worth noting that Britannica's article *only* discusses ancient Greece. - car chasm (talk) 02:51, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]