Talk:List of assassins

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What is Aaron Burr doing on this list? A duel is not an assassination.

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I removed Mark Chapman as he murdered John Lennon and did not assassinate him.

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I removed all the fictional assassins. those clearly do not help the list as a historical compilation Vroman 14:34, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Roger Nicholas Angleton - murderer of Houston, Texas socialite Doris McGowen Beck Angleton I removed the above person from the list. domestic violence is not assassination. Vroman 11:06, 18 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

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I thought Petterson had been cleared of the murder of Olof Palme--should he be listed here, given that? Vicki Rosenzweig

Yeap, the point here is Petterson was famous because of the Palme's murder, not because he did kill Palme. We can always put a line like "acquitted on the murder of Olof Palme" for clarification. User:kt2

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Should we really mention terrorist organisations in this list (Tamil Tigers); the list should include persons only IMO. And what about Gert Bastian? He is in the list, but as far as I know he did commit suicide together with Petra Kelly. He was the one to shoot, but he is not a typical assassin. Cordyph

I'm open on including (or not) Tamil Tigers, or would we restrict this list to persons only. If you would like to take it off, please go ahead. Bastian's case looks more like a murder and suicide than a assasination. We definitely need a definition on idetifying an assasin. Or the one given on assassin is good enough? User:kt2
I will now remove Bastian from the list. My opinion is restricting the list to persons, but before deleting Tamil Tigers I would like to hear the opinion of someone else. Cordyph
We still need some researches on Tamil Tigers and their role in the murder of Rajiv Gandhi. We will find someone who actually did the shooting, as the Singh's for Indira Gandhi, but whoever is respnsible is only working under the order of Tamil Tigers, I think.
We could limit this list to only persons and List of terrorist groups can store the groups with linking to one another. But we still need some brief info on who killed whom. IMO we can analyze the killing incidents depending on number of people on the "who" and "whom".
1. One person kills another (the conventional definition of assassination)
2. One person kills a group of people (genocide, mass murder, massacre etc.)
3. a group of people kill a person (the Tamil Tiger case falls into this category, or Brutus and associates on Julius Caesar)
4. a group of people kill another group (genocide, mass murder, massacre, terrorism etc., examples: Oklahoma City bombing, the September 11 terrorism etc.)
Seems like the definition on assassination depends more on number of people being killed. The target must also be a prominent figure. If an ordinary husband killed his whole family, burnt his house down and finally killed himself, we usually don't count it as an assassination of a wife by her husband.
IMO Assassination is a single incident of murdering a prominent person. Terrorism is continuous effort of murdering lots of people. By defining this way, Tamil Tigers will go to the terrorist groups and Brutus stay on this page.
As always I'm open and would like to listen to more opionions before we settled down on a format.User:kt2
I agree, that Rajiv Gandhi was killed by an assassin, but we don't know the name (or do we?). Also, there has been a series of political murders in Germany, executed by the leftist Red Army Faction. A lot of prominent persons were assassinated, but we do not know the names of the assassins (although we know many names of R.A.F. members). My proposal: let us make a section (not a new article, just a paragraph in the existing page) with persons being assassinated by unknown murderers. In that section we can state the name of the terrorist group. Cordyph
Cordyph, I have found the name of the person who assassinated Rajiv Gandhi. Her name was Thenmuli Rajaratnam (Tamil Tiger operative name "Dhanu"). Added 30/08/2003.

Lennon assassinated?[edit]

I take issue with John Lennon's murder being called an assassination. If that's the case, than every murder committed would have to be listed here, and there are certainly plenty of murders of public figures. Was Latin singer Selena assassinated? How about the heavy metal guitarist shot on stage last week? Or SNL actor Phil Hartman? IMO the term assassination should only be applied to the killing of political, spiritual, and economic leaders (and/or news-making public figures, such as Lee Harvey Oswald). Lennon was a well-known personality but he doesn't really fall under these categories. Thoughts? 23skidoo 05:36, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Is it really a problem to have too much information on a page? Let readers decided for themselves if they consider it an assassination.

Assassin Names[edit]

I know there has been talk through the years about the tendency of the media to use the middle name of assissins. Mark David Chapman, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Boothe, etc. Is anyone aware of some sort of written/unwritten naming convention for the media? Common murders and even serial murders are almost always referred to by first and last name. At least in the American press, spree/mass murders and assassins are referred to by all three names. Any comments?--crshinola 02:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know im responding to an old comment, but i believe that to avoid any hint of bias in the media, people charged or convicted of capital crimes are often referred to by their full name, with no "nicknames" or other alterations. if james earl ray was called "jimmy ray" by his friends, and then called that in the news, it would be seen as highly biased. best way to avoid that is to use their full legal name: cant argue with that. this is all educated guesswork, though.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a joke or what?[edit]

"Felix Yusupov" is described on this page as the "hard working assassin of Grigori Rasputin." Hard working? Is that a joke that should be removed?

What's spongebob squarepants doing in the list? --201.145.25.45 (talk) 19:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Standards for Assassination?[edit]

Using the (admittedly unclear) Wikipedia definition of assassination, as a guide, I am not convinced that all of the cited killings in this list rise to the level of assassination. I see at least one crime of passion, as well as references to a common criminal and a professional hitman. The ideological element of assassination would appear to be absent in these cases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.152.153 (talk) 05:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Luigi?![edit]

There is luigi and light in killers list xD. is this officialy aproved ;D?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.198.239.190 (talk) 14:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ehud barak???[edit]

why isnt he listed? In 1972, during peacetime between Israel and Lebanon, he led an Israeli commando death squad into Beirut, Lebanon where he personally murdered Palestinian writer Kamal Edwan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehud_Barak

Statesboropow (talk) 04:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

why was it taken out? can anyone say "bias"? Statesboropow (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BLP[edit]

Preferentially, every article in this list should be well referenced on this page. Lacking that, all entries about living people should be reliably sourced on this page, or removed, per WP:BLP. I already have removed some entries about fairly recent assassinations without linked articles, and a few redlinks. Fram (talk) 09:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Temp holding bin - these claims about living people would need to be sourced[edit]

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Benazir Bhutto[edit]

Perhaps addition of the late Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto would be beneficial. According to the references on her page (specifically the assassination subsection), Mustafa Abu al-Yazid claimed responsibility for the attack and the Pakistani government stated that it had proof that Baitullah Mehsud was the mastermind. However, according to the disclaimer at the beginning of the List of assassins, the list of assassins are those that have been prosecuted for said assassination or whom are believed, by historians, to be the culprits. Any ideas? Bullmoosebell (talk) 20:42, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List order[edit]

The list does not appear at present to have any order. It is not alphabetical, it is chronological, there appears to be no structure. 68.122.10.227 (talk) 07:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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