Talk:Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Grey of Fallodon

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John Kenney made an edit with the following summary: reverting - the word "British" in relation to "house of commons" has no need to be shown in the article.

I included the word "British" in the link since "House of Commons" links to a generic House of Commons page, while British House of Commons links to the specific House in which Edward Grey served. Failing any objection, I hope to include "British" in the link. Lord Emsworth 02:21, Nov 7, 2003 (UTC)

  • "British HoC" would be unnecessary, as he's already referred to as a "British politician" in the preceding paragraph. Andy Mabbett 07:52, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)
    • Therefore, British appears in the link, but not in the article: ((British HOC|HOC)). Lord Emsworth 13:29, Nov 7, 2003 (UTC)

POV like crazy here... "tepid German response" and others. Sources on these?

The Charm of Birds[edit]

I have a book by Sir Edward Grey titled The Charm of Birds. I wouldn't know of an acceptable place to put this information. Ninetigerr 20:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)ninetigerr[reply]

Dealings With The Germans[edit]

Grey was slow to tell the Germans in no uncertain terms that an invasion of Belgium (by the Germans) would mean war. But it may not have been completely his fault. Until the Germans actually invaded Belgium and the British public rallied behind the pro-war faction, he really didn't have much to threaten them with. And that's one of the catch-22s of parlimentary democracy.Cranston Lamont (talk) 17:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is essentially correct, but Grey's holding back did not materially affect the outcome. Germany was well-aware of what Britain would do, as Britain had warned Bismarck against invading Belgium during the Franco-Prussian War. The German General Staff anticipated that Britain would declare war once the Schlieffen Plan took Germany through Belgium, but calculated that a few divisions of British troops wouldn't prevent Germany from winning the war in a few weeks. Tuchman's The Guns of August and Massie's Dreadnought: Britain, Germany, and the coming of the Great War are good starting points from which you can track down any number of primary sources. Astro$01 (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lights out all over Europe quotation[edit]

"in our time" or "in our lifetime"? the article is inconsistent. Kittybrewster ☎ 08:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Painting Caption[edit]

The caption for the painting "Lord Grey of Fallodon, c. 1935" presumably has the wrong date as he died in 1933 ? RGCorris (talk) 09:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably right but not impossible to have been painted in 2014. Graemp (talk) 09:54, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am assuming the "c.1935" refers to his age as he appears in the portrait, not the date the portrait was painted - if it does refer to the latter then the caption should state as much. RGCorris (talk) 14:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
He died in 1933, therefore I think the "1935" refers to the date of painting.79.193.86.244 (talk) 13:11, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Quotation from "Cottage Book" that has been tagged for verification[edit]

The text in question was introduced here. The year in the reference, 1985, would appear to be a typo for 1895, when the events described took place. William Avery (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The ref also claims the Cottage Book was published in 1909 but it wasn't published until 1999. I would be much happier if the source were checked rather than we started guessing at typos. DuncanHill (talk) 19:40, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't disagree with that. William Avery (talk) 19:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I notice that the "Cottage Book" is also listed in the Works section, with a 1909 publication date. Clearly wrong. William Avery (talk)
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