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A new styled table has been introduced to the History of Russia series. Similar tables will be introduced in the History of Sweden series. -- Mic 09:11 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Peer Review invitation[edit]

Greetings.

There is a peer review started on Wikipedia:Peer review/Viking/archive1 and any interested party is invited to take part in reviewing the article. If you know the history of scandinavia, then please stop by and help the peer review of the artile Viking

Thank you for your time. --OrbitOne [Talk|Babel] 22:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why give concessions to cranks and cooks?[edit]

The text said that the centre of "Svea rike" (still a name for the country, isn't it?) was "allegedly at Old Uppsala". Based on WP:FRINGE, WP:WEASEL, WP:verifiability and WP:OR, I strongly disagree with such concessions to cranks and cooks in Västergötland. As long as the Götaland theory has never been accepted by professional historians, it is verboten on Wikipedia to make such concessions to that "school".--Berig 19:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1914-1945[edit]

The interwar period, a very important period in European History generally, seems to be missing from this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.52.215.67 (talk) 03:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

POV[edit]

"After falling upon harder times in the 1970s, the economy stagnated somewhat and in 1976, the social democrats lost their majority to the opposition. When the 1980s came and the economy started to get back on track again, the social democrats returned."

I'm going to try and rewrite the later part of the previous snippet in a less biased and more factual manner. The article as it stands now does not accurately respresent history or the original article it points to. Compare yourself. I've split the original article in 3 diffrent parts.


"The 1976 parliamentary elections brought a liberal/right-wing coalition to power after almost half a century of social democrat leadership, and Mr Palme gave way to Thorbjörn Fälldin (of the Centre Party, a former farmers/landowners party which had incorporated social liberal ideas as well as the burgeoning environmental debate)."

"Over the next six years, four governments ruled and fell, composed by all or some of the parties that had won in 1976, and the questions of energy and of battling the economic recession came to the fore like never before. The fourth liberal government in these years, again with Fälldin at the helm, seemed somewhat baffled by these problems and had neither the support of a firm majority in the parliament, nor a clear mandate from the non-socialist part of the Swedish electorate."

"Predictably it came under fire both from the Social Democrats & trade unions, and from the Moderate Party, now heading in an increasingly Friedman-inspired and market liberal direction, and it was defeated in the elections of 1982, with Mr. Palme returning to the PM's seat."

In fact, the original article doesn't even mention the economy improving. Even if it had, I doubt there is a general consensus that the economy improved because of anything the right did, except if you're a rightist, in wich case of course it did. To me, the original article seems to imply that the reason the social democrats returned was the right's inability to cope with the problems. Who to credit the economic recovery to is not in there. I've tagged this article to check if anyone will have an opinion about my edit.

213.141.89.53 (talk) 15:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish Empire and the Wolves[edit]

There is some rather dubious editing going on at Swedish Empire - this edit [1] is verging on bizarre ("Wolves, not seen in settled areas since the Middle Ages, stalked the deserted streets of once-bustling villages."). Help correcting this would be welcome, as the author is taking my corrections of his original research/unencyclopaedic tone rather personally. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 00:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Restructured heading levels[edit]

I restructured heading levels according to the conventional pattern:

  • Early time
  • Medieval ages
  • Modern ages (or Current time)

followed by f.ex. ISBN 91-518-3539-8 "Sveriges historia". ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 08:44, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

POV 2: Bias in Post-War Sweden Economy Section[edit]

This section, which contains as much foreign policy and politics as economics (How is the joining of the UN, or the partisan fluidity of 1976-82 relevant to the broad-brush outlines of the post-war Swedish economy?), also has a striking fierce ideological and political bias.

The purpose of the paragraphs seems to be to belittle the socialist policies of the nation during this period, suggesting that they were only feasible due to the Sweden's neutrality in WWII and that they were responsible for the economic challenges presented by the first stages of globalization in the 1970s. The intellectual merit of these two propositions is nil in my view, but that is not relevant for wikipedia. What is relevant is that they are quite controversial OPINIONS and ought not to appear here unless they cite published researchers and balance those views with the (majority) opinions of other scholars. TheCormac (talk) 13:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. Being one of those "belittled" Swedes, I cannot see anything wrong with the section. The later neutrality followed from the neutrality in WWII. There were two reasons, first that the social democracy (not quite the same as "socialism") led the coalition government during WWII, secondly that neutrality needed to be kept in order to motivate for the people the Swedish military industry, that was built up during WWII. That Olof Palme used the neutrality to balance the superpowers by claiming a "third way policy" was effectively a way to disarm the conflict during the cold war, it was smart politics that later gave some positive effects, but it was not the original reason for the neutrality. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 17:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And Sweden became an "economical superpower", as some German bank called it, partially because of the intact industry, none denies that, seriously. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 18:07, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missing: Kalmar Union[edit]

Or almost missing: there's one (1) paragraph only of a more than one century of violent conflicts and rebellions in Sweden, whence the nobility, farmers and mining industrialist sided with either the faraway king in Copenhagen, or a local noble wearing the title of "rikshövitsman" (c:a regent), sometimes transformed to "king". In this period the farmers got a strong position as a military power, in many ways building the basis for the later Swedish "Empire", and the mining industry prepared for a future arms race. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 18:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Sweden remained neutral during World War II, avoiding the fate of occupied Norway?[edit]

It sounds as if Norway didn't want to be neutral... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.21.40.84 (talk) 00:41, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Please insert article into "List of runestones"[edit]

For article Småland Runic Inscription 99, it can be added into List of runestones. Into what District location of Sweden I am unsure. So asking for help here. JoeNMLC (talk) 13:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@JoeNMLC: Just added it now. TylerBurden (talk) 07:28, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@TylerBurden: and All here - Discovered "Template:Runestones" and article "Rundata", so I added "List of runestones" and "Rundata" to Resources section of the navbox. Another fun-day at WP! (adding Wikilinks) JoeNMLC (talk) 14:23, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]