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See Talk:Pat Buchanan. Please take other people's reverting your edit seriously, and don't keep changing it back without offering discussion or explanation. -- Infrogmation 21:50, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Agrred. If you really feel that you need to indicate allegations of racism, please provide examples and sources. RickK 22:54, Jul 3, 2004 (UTC)

I have removed the VfD tag from Alfred Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Northcliffe. He's clearly notable, and you clearly don't understand how VfD works. If you feel this admonition is in error, please feel free to raise the matter on my talk page, or on the article's talk page. Thank you and best wishes, Mackensen (talk) 20:25, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Quite all right, we all make mistakes. I apologize for being so harsh. Mackensen (talk) 00:52, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)


RE: Civility

Well, mr Arbitar, sir, I'd be glad to do whatever was neccessary to increase civility on here, but if you could state what article you are referring to...that would help. Not just confuse me--Dudeman5685 11:02, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Danny and Oswald, Amazing Race 2

They're only partners in the sense of "team partners". They're both gay, but they don't have a romantic relationship; they're just friends. --Madchester 23:14, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Mark Young.gif

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Image:Hk22.gif

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This photo is widely used on the internet, so I don't think there is any copyright issues. Besides, I do believe these pictures are in the public domain now.

Hi, thanks for your response. In order for Wikipedia to cover itself, all images have to have some type of copyright tag. If you believe it is {{fairuse}}, then please place the appropriate copyright tag on the image. You can do this either when you upload it or by using the edit tab later. It is mostly to cover Wiki, and all images that do not have tags, have a chance at being deleted. Also, if you wish to sign your comments, you may do so by using ~~~~, this way we can see who left the message and when. If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me. Thanks again. ∞Who?¿? 06:38, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

As for the signatures, please do understand that my computer's performance is sub-par right now.

Thats very understandable, I don't personally mind, its just a bit easier to see who left the message, w/o checking history. Thanks for the tag, and have a good day/night. ∞Who?¿? 06:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

HKWNB, HKCOTW, Current events

Hi. Thanks for your contributions to some Hong Kong-related articles. You might be interested to take a look at HK wikipedians' notice board, HK Collaboration of the Week and Current events in Hong Kong and Macao. Happy editing! — Instantnood 05:01, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Hong Kong collaboration

My pleasure~ :-D — Instantnood 17:27, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Hk22.gif

Image deletion warning Image:Hk22.gif has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion.

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Hhk22.gif

You mind telling me why you are going to delete that picture without an explanation? --Arbiteroftruth 03:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Because it has been replaced with a PNG version, as is clearly stated in the page Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. --Fibonacci 05:58, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Didn't catch it at first. I apologize for my lack of respect. --Arbiteroftruth 21:43, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Apologies accepted. --Fibonacci 00:08, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Antonysilhouette07.gif

Thanks for uploading Image:Antonysilhouette07.gif. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, so its copyright status is therefore unclear. Could you add a tag to let us know its copyright status? (If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know on the image description page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Otherwise, see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. Thanks so much. Alphax τεχ 09:57, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

CLOSE

Hi,

I noticed you reverted the redirect on CLOSE. Please see Talk:CLOSE to see why I have reinstated it. Fourohfour 11:11, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

2005 Atlantic hurricane season

Actually, while the hurricane season is over, the next three storms to form this year would still be named Zeta, Eta and Theta. NSLE (T+C+CVU) 02:33, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Evan Mecham

I noticed that you made a recent addition to the article on Evan Mecham claiming that he was responsible for Arizona's loss of a Super Bowl and giving an estimate to the total economic impact of his time as Governor at over $500 million[1]. Do you have any sources for this information? I have searched for similar information in the past and was unable to find any (my sources indicate rumors of the Super Bowl being moved due to the lack of a MLK Day, not due to Mecham directly, and I have not found any estimates as to total economic impact just lost conventions). As the rest of the information in the article is fairly well sourced I would like to know were this information came from to maintain the same level of verifiability through the entire article. --Allen3 talk 21:41, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

  • You do not have to tell me what a wonder job Mecham did in office. I grew up in Tucson, and signed one of the recall petitions during my time as an undergraduate at the UofA. The issue is not if the information is true (I personally believe the substance of the material you added), but what can be backed up by credible sources. This is all in an effort to make sure the article complies with the core policy at Wikipedia:Verifiability. --Allen3 talk 01:11, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

By chance, I just stumbled on your question on User talk:KittenKlub about your potential candidacy for adminship. Although I am happy that one of your goals for Wikipedia is to clean the place up a bit, I reccomend you take a look at users' standards for adminship before you run. Based on a count of your edits, I find it extremely unlikely that you would be supported by many users. Although I'm sure you write very well, adminship is about more than just the face of Wikipedia, it is about all the nuts and bolts behind the scenes, and most users look for more participation on, and experience with talk pages, project namespaces, and others. Furthermore, now that you have asked someone else to nominate you, you have essentially subjected yourself to self-nominated status for many users, which means you will have harsher demands made on your record. I highly reccomend you ask User:KittenKlub not to nominate you, but at the same time, I am completely willing to help you with anything you need on Wikipedia. If you would like to know more about project namespaces (like articles for deletion, categories for deletion, administrator intervention against vandalism, etc.), I can get you started on that. Just leave a message on my talk page, and I will answer any question you have as soon as I can. Thanks JHMM13 (T | C) 07:15, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed you're working on your user page and it's starting to come together nicely. If you need any help with graphics and layout, you can go around Wikipedia, find something you like, and use it (if you source who you took it from!). You can take anything you like from my page if you see what you like, though. Remember, if you have any questions, if you would like to become more involved, or if you simply would like to know how to warn vandals (for example), just leave me a message on my talk page! JHMM13 (T | C) 08:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Catching vandalism

This is an area I'm pretty familiar with. Usually, the best way to catch vandalism is by just patrolling the recent changes page which is accessable from the navigation menu. Although everyone is capable of vandalizing Wikipedia, 99% of it comes from users that are not logged in (the IP address guys) or users with red links for their user pages and talk pages (indicating that they have just joined up and don't know the rules yet. When patrolling recent changes (See: Recent Changes Patrol), really the only thing you can do is monitor edits made by those types of users because there are simply too many changes made to Wikipedia to monitor every one of them. While you are getting used to counter-vandalism, you might want to limit your recent changes search to only IP users (anons, as they are often called) by adding "/hideliu" (liu stands for logged in users) to the recent changes URL like this. You can click on those pages, click "history," see the changes made by the anon's edit/edits, and if you feel they are actually vandalism (and it is important to tell the difference between vandalism, good-faith (but messed-up) edits, POV edits, or things that are disputed on the talk page), you can click on the link to the article with the last good-faith edits. The line you are looking to click on will look like this:

(cur) (last) 03:23, January 6, 2006 24.80.118.62 (→History)
(cur) (last) 03:36, January 5, 2006 24.6.218.157 (→Sport)
(cur) (last) 03:35, January 5, 2006 24.6.218.157 (→Sport)
(cur) (last) 17:12, January 4, 2006 Elephantus (rv random number changes)
This was taken from an actual page I reverted yesterday titled Split (which happens to be some city, apparently). I have bolded the area you want to click on when you notice that not only were 24.80.118.62's edits bad, but also 24.6.218.157's. However, if 24.6.218.157's edits were good, you should only revert back to his most recent edit. Anyway, just click on the part of the history page that I bolded, which will take you back to what that page looked like during that edit, click "edit this page" inside that page, scroll down to the edit summary where you can type in anything from "reverted anon edits" or "rvv" or, what I always do, "Revert to Elephantus," check it off as a minor edit, and save the page. Then when you look in the history of the page, you will see this line added to the top, except with your user name:
(cur) (last) 03:24, January 6, 2006 JHMM13 m (Revert to Elephantus)

Then, if you want to verify that you really did revert back to Elephantus (there is no reason to do this, I'm just showing you how), if you check his edit with the left radio button (those little circle check boxes in the history page) and your edit (the top one) with the right radio button, then hit the big button that says "Compare selected versions," you'll be taken to this page where you can see that the versions are exactly the same. Once you've reverted the vandalism, then you can start warning the actual vandal, but for the time being, I have to run out to play some hockey. In the meantime, if you feel like you need to warn a vandal, please do your best to be very, very, very kind in correspondence with our policy on not biting the newcomers. In fact, right now, all you should copy onto a vandal's talk page if you see one is exactly this text: {{subst:test1}} ~~~~. I'll come back later on today to explain that and all the other templates you can use for vandalism. But until then, happy editing!...and remember that the biggest reason to be here is to gain knowledge, even if vandal-hunting gets to be much like heroin addiction ;-) JHMM13 (T | C) 16:33, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Phelps

I did explain on the talk page. It was in the section titled "Sources"... right above the section that questioned why the tag was placed on the page, ironically enough. Jibbajabba 07:33, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

note

Just in case you have any knowledge of this as an Arizonan. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spider Ranch.

Stubs

Hello,

Thank you for your stub submission. You may wish to note that it is preferable to use a stub template from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Stub_types instead of using simply {{stub}}, if you can.

Thanks!

Anguis 07:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Article creation

I have been looking through the list of unwatched pages (available only to administrators) and found (Reach Up For The) Sunrise. I see that you created this but were not watching it. You may want to go to your preferences and under the "editing" tab turn on "Add pages you edit to your watchlist". This will enable you to keep an eye out for any edits that are made to pages you create and help to revert vandalism. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:01, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Also if you decide to can you leave me a note on my talk page. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 19:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 19:42, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

RFC / MarkSweep

In response to the comment on "War and Beauty"

Hello, Arbiteroftruth. It seems that I am a little bit too skeptical and too sensitive about the discrimination against mainland Chinese. I am sorry if my wording has offended you. I agree with your point that Commonwealth spelling should be used for British figures. But it seems that the characters in the drama are all from non-Cantonese speaking region. I think it is a common practice to transliterate the names with Hanyu Pinyin. What do you think? - Alanmak 05:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

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Ngo Dinh Diem

I am very sure his last name is "Ngo" - a lot of people like to propagate their middle names within their family, I do not see how this implies that their last name is their "surname" + "middle" name. For example, George Bush (43) is George Walker Bush and his father (41) is George Herbert Walker Bush. I don't think we can infer that because people propagate their middle names that the surname then becomes "Ngo Dinh". The fact that the chinese wikipedia uses this, I feel does not mean that it is correct - although the article is about an extremely prominent politician, none of it is sourced and it is basically all speculation. All of the males on my mother's side of the family have the format "SURNAME MIDDLENAME" with the same middle name, and they call themselves the "PHI" family, and this is the case for all purposes, official and unofficial, even in Anglophonic format "MIDDLENAME SURNAME" .Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 01:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Perhaps you should make a note that his ancestors like to preserve their middle names to separate their "Ngo" family, but I think that he is still definitely a "Ngo". My mother's family however, do not justify that the preservation of the middle name is due to any "separateness", it's just a hereditary thing. Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 02:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism?

You said that I have vandalised - which is a load of rubbish. I don't understand what you're on about Foxearth (Logged out due to computer errors)

Thanks

The promo section for "News@6" was sloppy. Thanks. Thanks. -Tracker <sup>([[User talk:TrackerTV|>talk)</sup>]] 04:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


Hey I just got a message from you, was that a general statement or was it in reference to a specific edit I have made? -dmstewar

Thanks for the advice, also Sun Devils suck, USC rules, we beat you last two games. Dmstewar 11:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Anson Chan

Thanks for removing the extremist comments on the page. I have been trying to get it removed only for it to be added again. If you've any ideas for helping manage people who insist on putting extremist comments do let me know! Thanks again. --mintchocicecream 13:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I do not think that edits by User:WangFeihung/User:WangFeiHung amounts to a vandalism (or even simple vandalism). It just a highly POV edits that could be annoying. I do not know much about the Hong Kong history, but I believe the government of it was indeed unelected democratically and I guess Anson Chan indeed did not fight against this undemocratic rules. Is it possible to enter something like:

On the other hand some political analysts (who?) note that Anson Chan did not fight against the British control of the Hong Kong nor against the non-democratic methods of forming its government. Thus, according to her opponents, she belongs to the Pro-Colonial, Pro-British crowd.

  • If it is unacceptable you probably should go to some sort of WP:DR process. abakharev 05:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I understand it is perfectly well that Hong Kong was a paradise comparing with the PRC and obviously AC did not the luxury to fight London and Beijing simultaneously. I also understand that WangFeihung is producing the far-left edits. On the other hand the leftists are people too and state their opinion ( as an attributed opinion not as a fact) might be OK. I do not know how common are WangFeihung-like opinions. If they are as common as the Flat Earth, they should not be mentioned. In this case we need a WP:RfC or something. abakharev 05:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I understand your feelings and indeed share them, but I can not just consider WeiFenghung's edits as vandalism without RfC or something showing that there his edits are against the consensus. Alternatively you could just revert him now and then (it does not seem he is inserting his edits very often). If you would find another admin who would agree to handle his edits as vandalism, it is fine with me. abakharev 05:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
        • I have blocked the later account indefinetly. abakharev 07:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Request

I will look into it as you have requested via Rcpaterson. I've read your comments. No need to repeat them on my talk page. Tyrenius 23:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Administration

Usually the requirement is to have at least 2-3 thousands edits overall. You only have a half of that. The low edit count is a problem that tend to disappear by itself in a few months. Maybe it is worth to do some Recent Change and New Article patrols, check categories, etc. A good admin is supposed to be interested not only in it is own but in the other people's articles as well. Always remember not only revert vandalism and unhelpful edits, but warn the vandals and discuss the peoblems with the other editors. You have very low count of edits in Wikipedia space, many people see it as a low involvement into the procedural part of wiki - try to be more active with AfD and other *fD. Village pump and policies discussions, etc. Otherwise you seems to be a "good admin material". Good luck. abakharev 07:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Re. A Desperate Plea.

Hello. I'm so sorry to learn of your problems: I hate any attempts to manipulate and distort the truth to serve particular political ends. However, I can offer no direct help in the particular matter you raise, which is beyond my area of expertise. I have no administrative powers myself, but I have alerted some other people who have. I wish you the very best of luck. Rcpaterson 23:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


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