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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Australian raven (pictured) is the commonest crow-like bird in urban Canberra, Sydney, and Perth?
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Shouldn't this be at Australian raven? -- Zoe

  • Apparently not according to Wikiproject BirdsCas Liber 07:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Definitely not, what makes you think the little "r" is more correct? Brett.donald 03:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do sparrows usually attack australian ravens on a regular basis.[edit]

When I was 4 and 14 I went to Aussie, I often saw sparrows attacking these guys. Is this normal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.190.32 (talk) 08:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's normal and common, but usually they only do it to drive the ravens out of their range. OzoneO (talk) 10:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Australian Raven
The Australian Raven (Corvus coronoides) is the largest of the three Australian species commonly known as ravens. Measuring 46–53 cm (18–21 in) in length with a 100 cm (39 in) wingspan and weighing around 650 grams (23 oz), the adult is an all-black bird with black feet and beak and a white iris. It is common throughout south-eastern Australia and southern Western Australia, but it is not found in the far north. It has adapted very well to human habitation in some cities and is a common bird in Melbourne, Sydney, and Rottnest Island.Photo: JJ Harrison
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placeholder Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:57, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable claim![edit]

This claim: "The preference ratio is 34% carrion, 42% invertebrates and 24% plant material." under the diet section of the article seems questionable. I quickly searched the web and found that these websites have the same claim:

  1. http://www.cykelkurt.com/fugle/eng/crows-of-the-world-2.html
  2. http://www.avianweb.com/australianravens.html
  3. http://www.redorbit.com/education/reference_library/science_1/aves_birds/2576536/australian_raven/
  4. http://www.gaiaguide.info/Group.html?groupId=khVERJr7

however the first and last sites cite Wikipedia while the middle two have no references. Does anyone know where this statement comes from? My limited searching found no such specific research into the ratio of this raven's diet. I did a quick search to see when it was first added, it seems a long time ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Raven&diff=prev&oldid=3536802

thedoctar (talk) 06:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Having issues with images[edit]

I apologize for the missing image. I was trying to use another image from wikimedia commons and failed. I also could not find the page that describes how to use images from wikimedia commons. Could someone please use the following image. File:Australian-Raven-RWD1.jpg If the following image, for whatever reason, fails to show, here is the link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Australian_Raven_RWD1.jpg LinkyWulfe (talk) 02:19, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bookmarks[edit]

To look at later: - [1], [2], [3] and [4]. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:25, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: IJReid (talk · contribs) 02:21, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Hey Cas liber, I'll take up this review. I have already read the lead and taxonomy, with only one comment: Have any cladograms on the genetic studies been published, and if so, could the most recent be added?

done. Have never tinkered properly with cladogram template before so am still learning (fumbling) my way. Still, it's there now. Feel free to adjust to make it look prettier Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A few comments on the description:

  • The juvenile image could be moved to the juvenile paragraph
done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some more info could be added to the juvenile paragraph, maybe more detail on the head?
got a tiny bit more - this is a bit hard.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • A little more overall description could be added.
easy to forget when dealing with an all-black bird! have added some info that gives a better idea of the bird's shape and dimensions - thanks for reminding me on this. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Vocalization is behaviour, not description.
this is a tricky one - most bird guides, and also bird Featured Articles, place calls in description section - I guess because it helps ID the bird, but also grouping how it looks and how it sounds together... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I guess in most birds it is. IJReid (talk) 20:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More behavioural comments:

  • How long did the male live, as the article only says over 12 years after banding.
It's tricky - all I can go on is what the source says, which gives as accurate as possible a picture - so it was an adult male (hence 3 years old at least), plus 12 years. Unfortunately unlike trees, birds lack tree-rings so we can guess the bird was at least 15 and a half years old, but the source doesn't make that inference...so neither will I (not sure why) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:20, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why not place "at least 3" in brackets directly behind "adult"? IJReid (talk) 14:40, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
that sounds like a good idea - done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • What the heck are "yabbies"
a freshwater crayfish in oz - my dad used to catch them all the time - linked to Common yabby now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck, IJReid (talk) 02:21, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Only a few more things to add, and then this article will be placed on hold:

  • There are many more images, a few of which could be used in the article.
have added one of western race. will try to find some that show new things managed to add some with eye colour changes over time. Unfortunately, we don't have any appropriately licenced images of nests or eggs.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:55, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Relationships with humans" as well as "Predators" could form subsections of a section titled "Conservation".
most of the predators and parasites section not about man-made threats, hence that would look odd. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. IJReid (talk) 20:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article itself mentions nothing about the IUCN ranking, which would be placed within Conservation.
I'll chase that up - I generally put that in distribution and habitat if not an issue Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, as long as it's in their. IJReid (talk) 20:36, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
added now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:14, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Once all these queries are completed, the article should pass GA. The article is a good read :). IJReid (talk) 03:47, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article is now a GA. Good job! :)' IJReid (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Range map[edit]

  • File:Corvus_coronoides_map.jpg - Australia is only a small part of this map. It would be better to show a range map only of Australia. The East and West ranges are probably fairly obvious, but it would be clearer if the ranges for the two subspecies were different colors. Am I right in interpreting the range map as one continuous range with East and West areas connected via a relatively narrow coastal area along the the South of Australia? I am not entirely sure if this is a FA criteria or not; however, there is room for improvement of the range map. I think that a better range map might look good. Snowman (talk) 14:33, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Australian raven

The Australian raven (Corvus coronoides) is a passerine bird in the crow family Corvidae, native to much of southern and northeastern Australia. Measuring about 50 cm (20 in) in length, with a 100 cm (40 in) wingspan, it is Australia's largest species of corvid. The bird's white iris contrasts with the entirely black plumage. Feeding largely on insects and other invertebrates, it also consumes eggs, nestlings, roadkill and carrion, as well as vegetable material. Farmers sometimes persecute it on the grounds that it kills lambs, but a healthy lamb is probably beyond its capabilities, although it does eat lamb faeces and stillborn animals. This Australian raven, perched on a rock encrusted with barnacles, was photographed at Doughboy Head in New South Wales.

Photograph credit: John Harrison

Image issues[edit]

There is MOS:SANDWICHing in the images here, which should be corrected, possibly by just moving some images around. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:SandyGeorgia, does it meet MOS:SANDWICH now? Or was I too bold with the multiple images thing? RetiredDuke (talk) 21:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thank you ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In Victoria the common name for 'Ravens' is 'Crow'. or should we just say Waang?[edit]

so we all know there are no crows in Vic- common knowlege for me and many others for decades and I presume for at least maybe two centries(there was no english here beyond the late 19th century). so as crow or raven are common names and not latininaic taxonomical termonolgy- can we/us in Victoria just keep calling these crazy birds who tap on your window, bring in objects ect ect- always called crows and never ravens. these are all just european names- I speak to them it's totally differnt to magpie(magpies only swoop angry people) so can we just call the corvis in victoria a crow or just by their name-Waang 124.170.107.64 (talk) 11:16, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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