Talk:Ashura

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Link to early Muslim celebration of Yom Kippur?[edit]

Below is some material removed for now from the article. It seems to show some evidence of early Muslims celebrating Yom Kippur, which occurs on the tenth day of Tishri, a practice that have become blurred with Ashura. The sources, none of which contain links or quotes, are not particularly illuminating. There is clearly at least one hadith being cited for this, though whether it is considered reliable or unreliable is unclear.

According to Muslim tradition, the Jews also fasted on the tenth day. According to Sunni Muslim tradition, Ibn Abbas narrated that Muhammad came to Medina and saw the Jews fasting on the tenth day of Muharram. He asked, "What is this?" They said, "This is a good day, this is the day when Allah saved the Children of Israel from their enemy and Musa (Moses) fasted on this day." He said, "We have more claim over Musa than you." So he fasted on the day and told the people to fast.[1][2] This tenth in question is believed to be the tenth of the Jewish month of Tishri, which is Yom Kippur in Judaism.[3] The Torah designates the tenth day of the seventh month as holy and a fast (Lev. 16, Lev. 23, Num. 29). The word "tenth" in Hebrew is ʿAsarah or ʿAsharah (עשרה‎), which is from the same Semitic root ʿ-SH-R. According to this tradition, Muhammad continued to observe the veneration of Ashura modeled on its Jewish prototype in late September until shortly before his death, when the verse of Nasi' was revealed and the Jewish-type calendar adjustments of the Muslims became prohibited. From then on, Ashura became distinct from its Jewish predecessor of Yōm Kippur.[4]

References

  1. ^ Morrow, John Andrew. Islamic Images and Ideas: Essays on Sacred Symbolism. McFarland & Co, 2013. pp. 234–36. ISBN 978-0786458486
  2. ^ Katz, Marion Holmes The Birth of The Prophet Muhammad: Devotional Piety in Sunni Islam. Routledge, 2007. pp. 113–15. ISBN 978-1135983949
  3. ^ Prophet Muhammad and the Origins of Islam, Francis E. Peters, SUNY Press, 1994, p. 204.
  4. ^ Prophet Muhammad and the Origins of Islam, Francis E. Peters, SUNY Press, 1994, p. 204.
Encyclopedia Britannica supported the connection above, so I have re-incorporated the material above around its basic structure. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:53, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Salman Rushdie attack[edit]

With reference to the recently added and removed material, this clearly occurred within the Ashura time period in 2022, but the timing appears coincidental. The central element to the story is that the perpetrator has some sort of Iranian Shia fandom backstory is and saw that Salman Rushdie planned a public talk. The attack is not clearly connected to Ashura in any way, other than in its timing. As an illustration, attacks perpetuated between 25 December and 5 January are not "Christmas attacks" because they take place within the 12 days of Christmas. The existing section of this page about terrorist attacks is focused on attacks on actual Ashura processions, where the connection is more evident. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:34, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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