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Hello! Thanks for explaining. I am relatively new on Wikipedia, so I am still learning.

I made the edits for these reasons : if someone doesn’t know who the person is and is reading the article for the first time, the first words allow the reader to briefly know who the person is and make an idea of this person. Afterwards, the reader continues to read the rest of the article and know the details that the entry doesn’t explain. For example, in Joe Biden’s article, the entry says that he is an "American politician who is the 46th president of the United States". That’s the most important to know about Joe Biden.

I understand the edits that I have made are redundant and that they are already explained in the whole article.

Thus, what I suggest is to keep the entry of Elijah Muhammad as how it is right now, but we can add "black supremacist", without detailing the whole thing : antisemitism, anti-white, etc, like I did before. It is a brief summary of his opinions, and a person reading the article for the first time will know at the start who he was and by continuing to read, they are going to know the details. Like knowing that Joe Biden is an American politician and the current US President, the two most important things to know about Elijah Muhammad is that he was a religious leader who headed the Nation of Islam and that he was a black supremacist.

Thank you and have a good day! FaChol (talk) 03:29, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So now it’s been scrubbed from the lead AND the body? Drsruli (talk) 05:00, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The lead is well sourced, it says he was a black separatist. Psychologist Guy (talk) 19:52, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]